Uncomfortably numb.

If I hadn't seen Everton win almost the lot - which thankfully I did - I'd walk away from them.

No question at all.

I really feel for those who've witnessed no success.
Naw, I too have seen the good times of the 70s and 80s but you never walk away . But you’re right in that reading the stories of those who’ve only seen the despair of 21st century Everton you do feel for them.
 
If I hadn't seen Everton win almost the lot - which thankfully I did - I'd walk away from them.

No question at all.

I really feel for those who've witnessed no success.
I’m 37, probably the worst age to be as a blue as I was six in 95, didn’t really understand what was going on but was almost lured in by thinking I’d see days like those

But I’m not an evertonian for the chance of success, it’s so much more than that. If it wasn’t I had every opportunity to ‘support’ Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal when I was a kid but I didn’t because I’m an evertonian

I hate the acceptance of mediocrity and the whole mentality on the playing side but I love the club and I love the people who follow the club

If we actually got leadership on board who could instil some belief that we can achieve something and we even won a league cup it would mean so much more than choosing to follow man united when I was a kid like most of my friends did
 
Naw, I too have seen the good times of the 70s and 80s but you never walk away . But you’re right in that reading the stories of those who’ve only seen the despair of 21st century Everton you do feel for them.
Same I’d Never walk away but could see how you could, me I’ve been enamoured with Everton for decades of my life maybe too much were I let it effect emotions too much, but the last few seasons I’ve really just become very ‘meh’ around them, i still occasionally get carried away with them or a bit too down but in gwneral I have a fewm for a few hours after a game then move on with my life.

Everton unfortunately are a dying club and have been for decades, now we just make up the numbers. We don’t compete and likely won’t for the foreseeable, we’re not even treated to entertaining football. As said above what kills you is the acceptance through the club of just mediocracy and how we should accept it as a fanbase. Even have some of the clubs friends in the media slap fans down for daring to have some ambition
 
For too long now Everton have been ran like a pub team. The fact that a change of ownership hasn’t changed mindsets within the club and the local media is deeply concerning.
Several points here all true.

I feel the change in owner has not changed the mindset of many either within the club (who?) and outside the club (journo's, reporters, tv, radio)

We're still run like a pub team although the pub has had a facelift.
 
I’m 37, probably the worst age to be as a blue as I was six in 95, didn’t really understand what was going on but was almost lured in by thinking I’d see days like those

But I’m not an evertonian for the chance of success, it’s so much more than that. If it wasn’t I had every opportunity to ‘support’ Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal when I was a kid but I didn’t because I’m an evertonian

I hate the acceptance of mediocrity and the whole mentality on the playing side but I love the club and I love the people who follow the club

If we actually got leadership on board who could instil some belief that we can achieve something and we even won a league cup it would mean so much more than choosing to follow man united when I was a kid like most of my friends did


I get that and respect it.

But for me Everton are and always will be a massive club - and 30 years of nothing is hard to take.

That's not being entitled either. It's part of our DNA to be a top club. We still are in many ways but we need to win silverware soon or we're going to be the next Newcastle who went 50 odd years without winning anything. A joke 'big club'.
 
I’m 37, probably the worst age to be as a blue as I was six in 95, didn’t really understand what was going on but was almost lured in by thinking I’d see days like those

But I’m not an evertonian for the chance of success, it’s so much more than that. If it wasn’t I had every opportunity to ‘support’ Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal when I was a kid but I didn’t because I’m an evertonian

I hate the acceptance of mediocrity and the whole mentality on the playing side but I love the club and I love the people who follow the club

If we actually got leadership on board who could instil some belief that we can achieve something and we even won a league cup it would mean so much more than choosing to follow man united when I was a kid like most of my friends did
We actually strive to be mediocre, the owners I think are the same at roma very little communication and seemingly no real connection with the club .I am unsure what there ambitions and targets are for us the people they have running us are at best very uninspiring appointments
Think the 'Happily dissatisfied' is going to hang around kinnears neck for as long as he is here
 
I'm 53. My teenage years coincided with Everton as a leading club, routinely referred to as Merseyside Giants.

People might say: "but that was just a happy coincidence and an aberration" - but, no. Everton were ALWAYS a top club. We may have had periods of struggle, but if we weren't winning titles in 1963 and 1970, we were winning the FA Cup in 1966, making the final in 1968, the semis in 1971 and 1977 and 1980, and the League Cup final in 1977. We competed for the league title in the mid and late 70s. We were, basically, Arsenal of the last 15 years.

What has happened since Bill Kenwright joined the board in 1989 has been a campaign of managed decline - one that took off ten years later and accelerated.

The Friedkins had the chance to put the brakes on that and reverse course, but their cardinal sin has been to identify Kenwrightism - and it's two greatest totems, Moyes and Coleman - as the true culture of Everton Football Club.

A fatal error.

Until the snake oil is driven from our club, they will continue the work of Kenwright's lifetime: that of managed decline with dollops of sentimentality. You are being gaslit.
 
I am in the same boat as you.

And despite its grandeur this why the new stadium, as magnificent as it is, feels weird and hollow for me.

As bad as we were at Goodison in recent years. There was still a sense of this magic history and a place where all our success was held. A hope that one day we’d have a team worthy of the heroes of old to grace the grand old lady and return the success

But at the Hill Dickinson, without any history to it and the current state of affairs. It has no past heroes, no illustrious history. And I’m worried sick it well ever have a team that marks it in history
 
I'm 53. My teenage years coincided with Everton as a leading club, routinely referred to as Merseyside Giants.

People might say: "but that was just a happy coincidence and an aberration" - but, no. Everton were ALWAYS a top club. We may have had periods of struggle, but if we weren't winning titles in 1963 and 1970, we were winning the FA Cup in 1966, making the final in 1968, the semis in 1971 and 1977 and 1980, and the League Cup final in 1977. We competed for the league title in the mid and late 70s. We were, basically, Arsenal of the last 15 years.

What has happened since Bill Kenwright joined the board in 1989 has been a campaign of managed decline - one that took off ten years later and accelerated.

The Friedkins had the chance to put the brakes on that and reverse course, but their cardinal sin has been to identify Kenwrightism - and it's two greatest totems, Moyes and Coleman - as the true culture of Everton Football Club.

A fatal error.

Until the snake oil is driven from our club, they will continue the work of Kenwright's lifetime: that of managed decline with dollops of sentimentality. You are being gaslit.
Great post.
 
OP nailed it when talking about mindset. The rot started with kenwright and his plucky Everton taglines all those years ago, everyone at the club since has embraced this fully and celebrates mediocrity with seemingly no ambition, or will, to change it.

For all the talk that spews out the club and managers, talk is cheap and we NEVER walk the walk. Im 40 and cant remember the last time Everton won a big match that would put us on a positive trajectory (im not counting palace and Bournemouth as this club should never be in them positions). Its tiring and I, like many others, cant be bothered with it anymore. They are happy to make the numbers up. I suspect the ownership group could care less as long as we stay in the league and on the PL gravy train. This summer will say a lot about this 'new' Everton and what the intentions of this ownership is. If this was Roma Moyes would be gone already. I suspect stability will be the buzz word again this summer and another season of mediocrity awaits us all.
 
Grealish, Branthwaite, 3-1 up against city, the west ham hand ball.

When you are not fancied, you are not fancied. 4 points without two key players right there...

Not like Bournemouth and Brighton haven't had plenty of injuries. We've kept most players fit.

Sunderland lost half their team to AFCON as well.
 

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