Unai Emery

neil999 · May 23, 2016

he did sign deulofeu(or i assume involved somehow) so its not like he hates him

bluestevon · May 23, 2016

ijjysmith said:
I found it good that the commentary mentioned the link to us last night. Only a good sign.

Was anything said in the after match interview at all? Doubt it now I think about it sensibly.

ESPN ran the post match itnerview with the line he is commited to Sevilla, reading the interview though - not quite as clear as the headline made out IMO

will copy it below

Sevilla could make the step up to compete in the Champions League next season, said Emery, while suggesting he himself would stick around to push them forward.

"I have been three and a half years in the club," he said. "We have come through a difficult period, and the team has kept growing in a sustained and important way.

"They can fight for titles, win trophies, and reach the Champions League. The club can make the next step, it has that ambition.

"The demands are very high, but we talk about that constantly, to not limit ourselves and always reach for more and improve and I always ask for that improvement of everyone at the club and of myself."

Until his sending off, for a professional foul on Neymar, Banega had another super game for Sevilla -- and it could now be his last as a free transfer move to Inter Milan is rumoured to be close.

"I have had a long relationship with Ever Banega -- of love and of hate in moments," Emery said. "But I love him as he's a lad who loves football and loves Sevilla. If he leaves Sevilla he will leave crying."

The Mighty Quint · May 23, 2016

Gerry does work for the team, he does track back, puts a tackle in, he's grown as a player here, he stated in interviews he knows he has to work for the team or he won't play.

Mutzo Nutzo · May 23, 2016

Adscum said:
I'm sold on Emery as a tactician and coach, but what's he like in the transfer market?

Emery and Sevilla relied/rely heavily on their DoF Ramon Rodriguez Verdejo (Monchi) for their football policy (youth system, first team and transfers).

The Sevilla youth system gave rise to the following players:

Diego Capel, Alberto Moreno, Jesus Navas, Sergio Ramos, and Jose Antonio Reyes.

His forays into the transfer market include Adraiano, Dani Alves, Julio Baptista, Federico Fazio, Seydou Keita,Ivan Rakitic and Kevin Gameiro. So obviously he has an eye for a player!!!

I'm not so sure that Emery could function as well without Monchi working above him...Maybe we should be looking at poaching him as well.

catcherintherye · May 23, 2016

bluestevon said:
End of the day Groucho, i love Deulofeu, but a young lad of 22 who doesn't exactly work hard when we don't have the ball and is still goosed after 45-60 minutes, is absolutely not a player you can build a side around, but just imagine a Del who can work his butt off in a game and can last the full 90, now that would be some player.

If Emery came and Deulofeu was given a fresh slate - which i think he would be, and isn't willing to work hard to earn his place then really all we will lose is a player we will spend the next few years hoping he will become something he never will do. On the other hand IF he lsitens and puts the work in then...

I also think that Deulofeu is 2 years older now, whats happened with Martinez will affect him and most importantly he is on a full time deal will make a difference.

When Emery signed Deulofeu he was a lad on loan. He had no long term investment in the player, he didn't suit the system and he left him out in the cold. Given he is a full time player now I do think he will spend more time on him.

For Deulofeu I think he is more mature now. he'd come off the back of a good loan spell when he went to Sevilla and probably still held delusions of being the next Messi. I imagine Martinez had been telling him not to worry about too much hard work and he probably didn't like the blunt message of Emery. Two years on, you can only hope some of the players may have realised that while Martinez is a nice man, he hasn't really benefitted their career. That reflection should make him more open to working with a new coach. If it doesn't then I am not convinced he is the right player for us anyway.

My preference has always been De Boer but if we got Emery I would be chuffed. I don't think he is as good at developing players but a big part of that is the nature of the clubs they are at. I don't think Emery will simply turn his nose up at Barkley, Deulofeu, Stones etc as that would be counter productive. He seems quite pragmatic and pragmatism might lead you to want to work with those players.

I suspect it will go one way or another for Barkley & Deulofeu with the new manager. If we get someone like Emery in, with 100 million to spend we will be a serious threat to the top 4. At present while Deulofeu & Barkley have undoubtedly got potential to play at that level they do need to start showing it or they will move on and we'll find others who will. It is time for the golden generation to deliver. Not just Deulofeu, but Barkley, Besic, McCarthy & Coleman all have big seasons coming up.

orchard · May 23, 2016

The Mighty Quint said:
Gerry does work for the team, he does track back, puts a tackle in, he's grown as a player here, he stated in interviews he knows he has to work for the team or he won't play.

True, and at least it'll be most of the team being worked on regarding stamina and work rate, at the same time.

bluestevon · May 23, 2016

Groucho said:
Yes. Emery isn't necessarily bad news for Del.

Could be the making of him.

Just been doing a bit of reading up mate, Banega - initially first season under Emery was loaned out, second season he was in and out the side and couldnt break into the team - and was nearly sold to us the following summer if ya remember the saga, but kind of turned it all around, eventually cemented himself int he team and even followed the manger to Sevilla after - and cited the manger as the reason he joined them, so Emery - tough love that he seems to use, can't know the fact that it has workd a wonder with that particular player, similar to Deulofeu Banega was the super hyped up youngster who by 22 was getting written off as a player who wouldn't ever fulfill that promise

anyone · May 23, 2016

Ashtonian said:
Considering he has kept building teams after selling the the likes of kindogbia, rakatic, bakka, navas and the like I'd say he is pretty good.

Or his director is, but we are after one of them as well lol

Negredo, Aleix Vidal, Alberto Moreno, Gary Medel, Fazio...

ToffeeDoug · May 23, 2016

Mutzo Nutzo said:
Emery and Sevilla relied/rely heavily on their DoF Ramon Rodriguez Verdejo (Monchi) for their football policy (youth system, first team and transfers).

The Sevilla youth system gave rise to the following players:

Diego Capel, Alberto Moreno, Jesus Navas, Sergio Ramos, and Jose Antonio Reyes.

His forays into the transfer market include Adraiano, Dani Alves, Julio Baptista, Federico Fazio, Seydou Keita,Ivan Rakitic and Kevin Gameiro. So obviously he has an eye for a player!!!

I'm not so sure that Emery could function as well without Monchi working above him...Maybe we should be looking at poaching him as well.

He got some decent football out of Stephane M'Bia as well, no mean feat.

bluestevon · May 23, 2016

catcherintherye said:
I also think that Deulofeu is 2 years older now, whats happened with Martinez will affect him and most importantly he is on a full time deal will make a difference.

When Emery signed Deulofeu he was a lad on loan. He had no long term investment in the player, he didn't suit the system and he left him out in the cold. Given he is a full time player now I do think he will spend more time on him.

For Deulofeu I think he is more mature now. he'd come off the back of a good loan spell when he went to Sevilla and probably still held delusions of being the next Messi. I imagine Martinez had been telling him not to worry about too much hard work and he probably didn't like the blunt message of Emery. Two years on, you can only hope some of the players may have realised that while Martinez is a nice man, he hasn't really benefitted their career. That reflection should make him more open to working with a new coach. If it doesn't then I am not convinced he is the right player for us anyway.

My preference has always been De Boer but if we got Emery I would be chuffed. I don't think he is as good at developing players but a big part of that is the nature of the clubs they are at. I don't think Emery will simply turn his nose up at Barkley, Deulofeu, Stones etc as that would be counter productive. He seems quite pragmatic and pragmatism might lead you to want to work with those players.

I suspect it will go one way or another for Barkley & Deulofeu with the new manager. If we get someone like Emery in, with 100 million to spend we will be a serious threat to the top 4. At present while Deulofeu & Barkley have undoubtedly got potential to play at that level they do need to start showing it or they will move on and we'll find others who will. It is time for the golden generation to deliver. Not just Deulofeu, but Barkley, Besic, McCarthy & Coleman all have big seasons coming up.

All good points their mate, and hopefully that is the way the lad thinks now as it will do him and his career the world of good if he does.

I think Emery is good at devloping players who want to be pushed to be the best they can be, he can work with that, and maybe even bring it out of some players as well, but if your noit willing to give it everything then i think he will be the wrong man for that player, but end of the day, as Evertonians - don't we all want to se eour lads giving it absolutely evertything for the shirt?

Maybe end of the day, a manager who blew smoke up their arses and who they all quit on during the season may be the wake up call they all needed, and maybe just maybe has set them all up nicely for the polar opposite to come in and really give them the kick they need.

Strange how sometimes it takes seeing what the relaxed/lazy way leads to to make you really push for the opposite

bluestevon · May 23, 2016

Posted in another thread, but interesting little coincidence, both Emery and Arteta share the same agent, small client list as well, both Basque, both started at Sociedad, and Arteat wanting to get into coaching/managerial side of thigns, wouldn't be the worst scenario i can imagine him joining Emery as an assistant

evertonfootballclub · May 23, 2016

bluestevon said:
Posted in another thread, but interesting little coincidence, both Emery and Arteta share the same agent, small client list as well, both Basque, both started at Sociedad, and Arteat wanting to get into coaching/managerial side of thigns, wouldn't be the worst scenario i can imagine him joining Emery as an assistant

Not an assistant, he'll need some experience for that, but maybe in some sort of role working his way up. I am sure he'd love to move back to Merseyside if he isn't planning on heading back to Spain any time soon.

Mutzo Nutzo · May 23, 2016

bluestevon said:
Posted in another thread, but interesting little coincidence, both Emery and Arteta share the same agent, small client list as well, both Basque, both started at Sociedad, and Arteat wanting to get into coaching/managerial side of thigns, wouldn't be the worst scenario i can imagine him joining Emery as an assistant

I heard that Arteta was being lined up to work alongside Guardiola at City.

catcherintherye · May 23, 2016

bluestevon said:
All good points their mate, and hopefully that is the way the lad thinks now as it will do him and his career the world of good if he does.

I think Emery is good at devloping players who want to be pushed to be the best they can be, he can work with that, and maybe even bring it out of some players as well, but if your noit willing to give it everything then i think he will be the wrong man for that player, but end of the day, as Evertonians - don't we all want to se eour lads giving it absolutely evertything for the shirt?

Maybe end of the day, a manager who blew smoke up their arses and who they all quit on during the season may be the wake up call they all needed, and maybe just maybe has set them all up nicely for the polar opposite to come in and really give them the kick they need.

Strange how sometimes it takes seeing what the relaxed/lazy way leads to to make you really push for the opposite

You'd hope some of the players could reflect on Martinez and maybe think "you know what, maybe him not being tougher on us has not been for the best in the long run".

I think Emery is a big of a cross between (a young) Benitez & Pochetino. I think he has the pragmatism and big game abilities of Benitez but also the discipline and similar style to Pochetino. I think like "Poch" had at Spurs he will fall out with players if he comes in. Spurs have lost players, some of them good players who performed well for them. However he made it clear what he wanted in style and also in delivery of results and if you weren't on board with it you got moved on. Lennon, Capoue, Townsend, Sandro (who I always thought was a beast) are all players who have done pretty well at new clubs and done a good job for Spurs but they just didn't fit where he wanted to go.

The same will be true for us. Most knowledgeable fans look at our squad and can't believe where we are. But sooner or later potential has to start turning into performances. If they can't deliver get someone in who can. And in all likelihood if a player doesn't like the increased workrate routine of an Emery then they are not the right characters to have in your dressing room, so bets to move them on.