Tour De France 2012

[TX Bill]

The evidence is all ther for people who want to look. That is the problem though, people dont want to believe he is a cheat because it is such a great story. Scratch away at the surface a bit and you will see that Armstrong is a nasty piece of work. The evidence against him is staggering really throughout his career I dont know how anyone can claim he never doped. Please dont say he never tested positive because neither did Marion Jones, Jan Ullrich, Bjarne Riis etc etc

Loads of people have came out and said they have seen him do it and now USADA have at least TEN team mates incriminating him, including Hincapie someone Lance called a "brother to him". Incidentally Hincapie never tested positive either.
Also, take a look at Armstrongs "99 test results which he passed. In 2004 a test was finally developed for EPO, "99 samples were tested and Armstrongs samples were chocker with EPO. Armstrongs response? They were tampered with. An incredible accusation, as libellous as it is ridiculous as all the samples were not labelled with names but with numbers.

Glad he has a fall from grace the way he treated the likes of Simeoni and BAssons. He is a bully who has disgustingly used his own cancer to hide behind his cheating. Little ******** has finally got his comeuppance.

Really?

That same evidence that ended up having a court here not pursue him any further.

Eagerly awaiting facts to back up your post above. Why? Because in our country, you're innocent until PROVEN guilty and the public has yet to see one shred of evidence backing up the USADA's claims or for that matter, yours.

I demand that they go public with their proof of him doping. That'll clear it right up. If they don't, then it'll show this for what the majority of the public believes this to be, a witch hunt and nothing more.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There is an Armstrong thread guys. lets keep this to racing huh

 

[bluejock]

There is an Armstrong thread guys. lets keep this to racing huh

This.

How's Froome getting on Batman? Not been following this one.

 

[Walken]

2nd overall still Jock, does anyone think that despite next years tour being more suited to a climber, that sky would be stronger with Froome and others supporting Wiggins, than Froome being leader, and Wiggins not quite being able to offer the same level of support that Froome might?

 

[sbbefc]

Anyone climbed the alpe d'huez?

 

[Phyllis Stein]

I've never met Hitler either, can I not judge him? It is well known within cycling that Armstrong is a bully. Simple as. I don't get what kids looking up to him, Bolt, Ennis or his illness have to do with that.

Roy Keane, Duncan Ferguson, Mike Tyson, countless Rugby players, all shrinking violets that would never saw boo to a goose. The hair dryer, Moyes way or the highway etc.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Anyone climbed the alpe d'huez?

climbed it yesterday. took an hour. not a bad climb really. certainly done harder

 

[davek]

Froome found out there a bit today by some class climbers. Lost 15 seconds to Contador. Needs a big TT next week.

 

[sbbefc]

climbed it yesterday. took an hour. not a bad climb really. certainly done harder

im going to the tour next year, done loads of cat 3s according to mapmyrun in north wales, hopefully going to try one of the HCs next year, ive got aple d'huez targeted, no problem you think?

 

[sbbefc]

Froome found out there a bit today by some class climbers. Lost 15 seconds to Contador. Needs a big TT next week.

Really enjoyed the stage today, 'found out' is a bit harsh he didnt lose that much time over contador, and he had a bit a shocker with his run in. I do think sometimes if he had wiggo with him that they could have blown away the rest.

 

[Azzurri]

Froome found out there a bit today by some class climbers. Lost 15 seconds to Contador. Needs a big TT next week.

Not really found out. I think everyone knows Contador is a better climber than Froome, as are many others.

 

[Phyllis Stein]

Really enjoyed the stage today, 'found out' is a bit harsh he didnt lose that much time over contador, and he had a bit a shocker with his run in. I do think sometimes if he had wiggo with him that they could have blown away the rest.

There it is. Wiggins and Froome are great together, like Baines & Pienaar. Being able to rely on one another and swap duties when applicable. The climbs on the tour this year were executed by these two and thats why attacks were so regulated and how they stretched the so called best and got a one-two.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

im going to the tour next year, done loads of cat 3s according to mapmyrun in north wales, hopefully going to try one of the HCs next year, ive got aple d'huez targeted, no problem you think?

As with most things it depends. Did it on Friday as the first climb of the day and it was not bad at all. Did it again yesterday towards the arse end of 170km and it was a good deal harder.

Depends what you want from your days riding really. There are lots of climbs in the Bourg D'Oisans area, with a famous Tour ascent down every turn. One they haven't ever done though is the climb to Villard de Notre Dame. It's only a small road carved into the mountain and goes through several tunnels. Very picturesque.

A similar climb can be found if you turn right at Dutch corner (by the church) on D'huez. It takes you around the side of the mountain. Steeper than the Alps itself, with bits of around 14%. It brings you out towards the bottom of Les Duex Alpes so you could always do that one if you had the legs, or turn right and take the nice descent back towards Bourg D'Oisans.

 

[sbbefc]

Le tour de yorkshire, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20724621

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Nice one. Pity they didn't use Yorkshire for a stage race rather than a prologue. The hills would have made an interesting first week change to the usual flat sprint stages and pile ups.