Tough November/December

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4 pts out of spurs and arsenal is almost a minimum if we want CL footy. A season is over 38 games, but yo u know what i mean. We can obviously take 6 but i'd settle for 4
 
I think we really need to drop this emphasis on Champions League, it will do us as supporters no good because it's highly unlikely to happen, sort of like if Norwich fans were saying 'there goes our chance of Europa'. It never was and still isn't a realistic goal for our squad. Not saying we can't achieve it though.
 
I think we really need to drop this emphasis on Champions League, it will do us as supporters no good because it's highly unlikely to happen, sort of like if Norwich fans were saying 'there goes our chance of Europa'. It never was and still isn't a realistic goal for our squad. Not saying we can't achieve it though.

yeah that's why i'm saying it. Whilst it's still a genuine possibility i will talk about it, aim high and all that, but i genuinely don't believe we'll finish 4th. Think 5th should be our ultimate aim and then maybe look to improve on that again next season
 
I'm going to be interested to see how we play this weekend without Fellaini, because if we don't make 4th we've lost him at the end of the season. If life goes on without him then finishing 5th is acceptable because we can aim higher next season with the money from selling him, but if we look pants, we're going to take another 2-3 years to get back into this position I think.
 
I'm going to be interested to see how we play this weekend without Fellaini, because if we don't make 4th we've lost him at the end of the season. If life goes on without him then finishing 5th is acceptable because we can aim higher next season with the money from selling him, but if we look pants, we're going to take another 2-3 years to get back into this position I think.

One thing's for sure, it's certainly going to be interesting isn't it mate.
 
I think we really need to drop this emphasis on Champions League, it will do us as supporters no good because it's highly unlikely to happen, sort of like if Norwich fans were saying 'there goes our chance of Europa'. It never was and still isn't a realistic goal for our squad. Not saying we can't achieve it though.
I think we need to emphasise it more, it is a realistic target. It may be unlikely that we will achieve it, but we always have to aim for a little bit higher than we think we should get. I want to be disappointed with every point dropped, not happy with every point won
 
4 points against Spurs & Arsenal, and about 8 points in the other games and we could call it a good run.

yeah that's why i'm saying it. Whilst it's still a genuine possibility i will talk about it, aim high and all that, but i genuinely don't believe we'll finish 4th. Think 5th should be our ultimate aim and then maybe look to improve on that again next season

If we finish 5th, we're less likely to come 4th next year than this year IMO. The Europa League has a huge effect, check out Liverpool and Newcastle. I really like the Europa League, and if we can qualify this season I'd be delighted, but it definitely isn't a stepping stone towards the top 4.
 
I think we're due a slight reality check. Our fixtures thus far this season have been pretty mild. We had United on the first day and that's been it as far as the big teams are concerned (unless you count Newcastle or the RS as big teams). Given how many draws we've had thus far I don't think we're as strong as our position suggests, and the next month or so will give us a much better idea of how good a team we are.
 
I personally think we should be 6 points better off at this point given our fixtures so far. We now have a tough period which will either...
(a) Show us up as being not as good as we think we are.
(b) Show that we are infact to be taken seriously.

Over to you moyes and the boys!!
 
I thought we'd get 11 points, I can see us dropping a few should be wins, but getting a couple of probably defeats as draws
 
way where playing at the moment and conceding goals by the bucket, id be amazed if we win any of them tbh.
Bottom half by the way year.
 
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