Tottenham Hotspur

Just cannot feel sorry for them and only revelling in their suffering for multiple reasons:
1. They’ve had some great times, multiple champions league runs came top 4 countless times and got to a champions league final.
2. They won a trophy last year.
3. They ALWAYS beat us.
 
Genuinely blows my mind that Igor Tudor hasn’t been replaced yet, it’s as if the strategy is to get relegated.

You would think that if they replaced him someone else they would get the 3 wins needed
I honestly think that if Spurs hadn't scored, he'd be gone.

5-0 - or perhaps even 5-1 - and you know you're out of the tournament.

5-2 gives you a bit of irrational hope for the second leg - and perhaps even irrational hope in your manager.
 
Someone like Solskaer could give them a quick bounce.

Dyche will want a longer contract beyond this season just for the inevitable pay off come the summer..
Though that would be cheaper than relegation.

Dyche taking Spurs down would be quite amusing though, and certainly good for the Forum.
 

Gist: Spurs need to go down - or be condemned to spend a decade as Everton. 🤔
I will never ever get people who say your club been relegated will end good in the long run. Barring a miracle were a muly billion-aire comes and takes over. It will never be good. There is never a guarantee that you will come up, been a so called big club means nothing when your not use to the lower leagues etc
 
I will never ever get people who say your club been relegated will end good in the long run. Barring a miracle were a muly billion-aire comes and takes over. It will never be good. There is never a guarantee that you will come up, been a so called big club means nothing when your not use to the lower leagues etc
Yeah hoping for relegation is insane

If only because it guarantees that people lose their jobs

The players can play elsewhere, the coaches can coach elsewhere, the owners will still be millionaires/billionaires

The folks that suffer are the kit people, the tea makers, the kit washers etc

If only for their sakes, you should never want your club down
 

Gist: Spurs need to go down - or be condemned to spend a decade as Everton. 🤔
Yeah, not sure I buy his logic.

It hinges on the proviso that going down leads to a reset in the club’s attitude to the core business of football.

I think the opposite is more likely: other revenue streams become even more important if you’re falling out of the Premier League.

I think it’d make distractions worse.

But having said that, I enjoyed this line:

After four defeats in his first four games, Tudor has paid the ultimate price by being made to keep doing his job
 
Yeah, not sure I buy his logic.

It hinges on the proviso that going down leads to a reset in the club’s attitude to the core business of football.

I think the opposite is more likely: other revenue streams become even more important if you’re falling out of the Premier League.

I think it’d make distractions worse.

But having said that, I enjoyed this line:
I agree with you. It depends on what the relegation triggers. For example, if you are being run by a Bill Kenwright and trapped in his culture of cloying, sentimental paupery, then a relegation can potentially run a fella out of town. It might be a reset then. But for us under an AWOL but desperate Moshiri who wanted out anyway, it would have been disastrous in all likelihood.

That said, his little dig at Everton is telling. Whether we want to accept it or not, many people see us as irrelevant to this day. And deep down there is a kernel of uncomfortable truth in that. Basically, it's the job of the Friedkins to transform us to the extent that we are no longer a punchline in other clubs' tales of woe.
 
I agree with you. It depends on what the relegation triggers. For example, if you are being run by a Bill Kenwright and trapped in his culture of cloying, sentimental paupery, then a relegation can potentially run a fella out of town. It might be a reset then. But for us under an AWOL but desperate Moshiri who wanted out anyway, it would have been disastrous in all likelihood.

That said, his little dig at Everton is telling. Whether we want to accept it or not, many people see us as irrelevant to this day. And deep down there is a kernel of uncomfortable truth in that. Basically, it's the job of the Friedkins to transform us to the extent that we are no longer a punchline in other clubs' tales of woe.
Yeah, I don’t mind the dig - it’s meant humorously - and it certainly has been largely torrid being an Evertonian since Martinez’s first season.

I wouldn’t want Everton to be Everton for the next decade, either!
 

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