Match Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Everton - Preview, Match Report & MotM Poll

[Tigger]

I honestly reckon its because we are in the weird bracket of being the "almost" club. I think top 6 teams still have a perception that we will be tough to beat so always put in a performance. Whereas clubs like Norwich or Bournemouth are seen as small clubs so better teams often get caught out, especially at home.

Arsenal and Chelsea have lost to some awful teams at home over the last few years yet they always turn up against us. Liverpool always turn up against us yet teams like Swansea and Bournemouth have won at the pit.

I honestly reckon it's because we are utter dung and have had a squad of yellow bellies for years.

 

[FTY]

Been far to long since we put one over on these.

One of our most exciting wins ever that was

 

[number4.]

I'm interested in seeing these stats, as I suspect they're bollocks.

See below 10 points seems somewhere in between

MA3517 Mathematics Research Journal - University of Leicester did a heavy analysis on this a few years ago & to save you the pain of reading through it....

PPG after European match PPG after nonEuropean match Difference in PPG (weighted with European matches) -6.0714

more interesting, when this is a "non big 6 club" based on same data this becomes -15.1250

Study Conclusions...
To summarise, the general hypothesis from the data is that playing in Europe negatively affects the number of points a team collects over the course of a season. However, playing a league match immediately after playing a European fixture does not have any effect. This indicates that rather than teams suffering an immediate decrease in form, the extra fixtures that come with playing in a European competition cause a small decrease in the number of points a team earns throughout a season.

When the data is broken down and analysed, several conclusions can be made. Teams that were not in Europe the previous season struggle to maintain their European position for the following season. The only exception to this are teams known as the top six and Aston Villa, who were knocked out of the Europa League before the group stage both times. This is likely due to teams that perform above expectations in the league will have their best players bought from them, leaving them with a tougher fixture list while having a weaker squad.

The last five years show that the effect of playing in Europe has increased for all teams. This could be due to a combination of factors such as English teams progressing further in European competitions while the quality of the Premier League has also increased. For the 2018/19 season, it was an all English final in the Champions League (Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool) and the Europa League (Chelsea vs Arsenal). This has never happened before in the history of the competition.

This is further backed up by the fact that the three teams with the most injuries in the 2018/19 were all in a European final [9], indicating that the extra games do influence the injuries a team has over the course of the season. Manchester United had over sixty injuries and this may have resulted in the club missing out on Champions League football [9].

For clubs classified as the top six, there is statistical evidence to suggest that in the last five years, playing a Premier League match after a European fixture affects how many points the team will get. This also relates to teams making deeper runs into European football as well as the quality of sides in the Premier League getting strong, teams are unable to breeze past weaker opposition in the league, so if the team is not on their game they can easily drop points.

The data shows that if a club can maintain European football after its first season, then it will likely stay competing in Europe for many seasons afterwards. On the other hand, if a team is not able to maintain the quality of players or strengthen their squad, they are likely to suffer harshly. This is due to several problems, including more injuries occurring due to an increased number of games. Another issue is there best players moving on to more successful clubs in England and the rest of Europe. For teams that are not planning on investing and developing their squad, qualifying for Europe typically results in the following season having a much lower points tally than the previous.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The last time we beat these away, we played most of the game with 10 men, IIRC?

Weird game

Edit, actually I think we did win there since that game. Still must be at least a decade since then.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I think you'll find our defence is a bit more savvy now. I can't see anything less than a draw but expect a win.

I admire your confidence, but I at this point cannot share this until we start going to these places and winning regularly.

 

[jonesey10]

Easiest win of the season for you lot. I just want it to be over. Put me out of my misery.

Ah, reverse psychology, you're not fooling anybody with that feeble attempt mate.

 

[Jeff Jones]

See below 10 points seems somewhere in between

MA3517 Mathematics Research Journal - University of Leicester did a heavy analysis on this a few years ago & to save you the pain of reading through it....

PPG after European match PPG after nonEuropean match Difference in PPG (weighted with European matches) -6.0714

more interesting, when this is a "non big 6 club" based on same data this becomes -15.1250

Study Conclusions...
To summarise, the general hypothesis from the data is that playing in Europe negatively affects the number of points a team collects over the course of a season. However, playing a league match immediately after playing a European fixture does not have any effect. This indicates that rather than teams suffering an immediate decrease in form, the extra fixtures that come with playing in a European competition cause a small decrease in the number of points a team earns throughout a season.

When the data is broken down and analysed, several conclusions can be made. Teams that were not in Europe the previous season struggle to maintain their European position for the following season. The only exception to this are teams known as the top six and Aston Villa, who were knocked out of the Europa League before the group stage both times. This is likely due to teams that perform above expectations in the league will have their best players bought from them, leaving them with a tougher fixture list while having a weaker squad.

The last five years show that the effect of playing in Europe has increased for all teams. This could be due to a combination of factors such as English teams progressing further in European competitions while the quality of the Premier League has also increased. For the 2018/19 season, it was an all English final in the Champions League (Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool) and the Europa League (Chelsea vs Arsenal). This has never happened before in the history of the competition.

This is further backed up by the fact that the three teams with the most injuries in the 2018/19 were all in a European final [9], indicating that the extra games do influence the injuries a team has over the course of the season. Manchester United had over sixty injuries and this may have resulted in the club missing out on Champions League football [9].

For clubs classified as the top six, there is statistical evidence to suggest that in the last five years, playing a Premier League match after a European fixture affects how many points the team will get. This also relates to teams making deeper runs into European football as well as the quality of sides in the Premier League getting strong, teams are unable to breeze past weaker opposition in the league, so if the team is not on their game they can easily drop points.

The data shows that if a club can maintain European football after its first season, then it will likely stay competing in Europe for many seasons afterwards. On the other hand, if a team is not able to maintain the quality of players or strengthen their squad, they are likely to suffer harshly. This is due to several problems, including more injuries occurring due to an increased number of games. Another issue is there best players moving on to more successful clubs in England and the rest of Europe. For teams that are not planning on investing and developing their squad, qualifying for Europe typically results in the following season having a much lower points tally than the previous.

Don't I know you? Your name rings a bell.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Arteta10]

Nice meme.....but why did they go for Digne?

Surely either Gomes, or one of our tougher tackling players would have been better

 

[DanEFC92]

Nice meme.....but why did they go for Digne?

Surely either Gomes, or one of our tougher tackling players would have been better

Oh idk mate.

Gomes doesn't have it in him I don't think.

 

[Cmonefcsortitout!]

We’re drifting like a barge in the betting. For some reason, I fancy us to win tonight, 3/1 looks reasonable, but our record there is dire! COYB!

 

[dwightschrute]

Last beat these in 2013, bogey team

 

[Prevenger17]

Very doubtful of 3 points based on not even being able to remember our last win over them

 

[Zatara]

If we win i think we finish 7th due to our run of games. Also in with a chance to catch wolves in 6th and that match to play.

Draw and we are more likely to be targeting 8th place.

Its really a must win game if we want Europe. U hope Ancelotti and the players manage to land the 3 pts.

I dont care how they do it, i just want the 3 pts.

 

[radiostar]

Great time to be playing spurs.