Today's Football 2014/15

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Not in recent years and that's where all the mental scaring comes from. The Gosling derby is far outweighed by the FA cup semi final.
We are best avoiding them and hoping they either progress or finish bottom of their group.

Since the 80's we're 4-3 up on earlier rounds of the cups.
 
History from years and years ago is totally irrelevant. We also used to win the league now and then. What matters is recent results, of which the overwhelming majority have been negative.

Every match against them should matter, so the fact that we'd be playing them in the cup and not the league makes absolutely no difference as far as i'm concerned. We can't beat them with any consistency regardless of how crap they are.
Ha Ha Ha.

So we shouldn't want to play them in any round of the cup?

I can understand wincing at the thought of a SF or final. I would too. But we have a very decent record in earlier rounds.
 
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URRGHH FFS... i must have lost 20+ sensative cultists off my facebook page on this hateful day.
Basically I do not want to go through that again. Even though we beat them magnificantly in 2009, minutes before the Gosling winner i was the colour of a sunburnt smurf. 2nd or 4th for me, just incase. They are garbage now, but alot changes in 4 months in this game.
 
History from years and years ago is totally irrelevant. We also used to win the league now and then. What matters is recent results, of which the overwhelming majority have been negative.

Every match against them should matter, so the fact that we'd be playing them in the cup and not the league makes absolutely no difference as far as i'm concerned. We can't beat them with any consistency regardless of how crap they are.

Fair enough. We've played them once this season, what was the result ?...........
 
Honestly have mixed feelings about them progressing or not. On the one hand if they progress it keeps alive the unlikely, but possible scenario of '6 times' occurring. You know they'd draw the weakest group winners in the next round then who knows what a post January transfer window liverpool would look like. Most likely outcome, however, is that they would go out to the first decent team they met. There's also a good chance they may not make top 4 in the league.

If they drop out into the Europa, however,they are straight into the knockout stages, with a favourable draw, of a weak competition that allows the winners entry into next seasons champions league. I don't even want to get into the murky world of the lengths Uefa would go to to ensure one of their cash cows returned to the herd (the TNS draw springs to mind) but I wouldn't put a bit of favourable refereeing and some easy draws past them. Also the prospect of a cup derby with a uefa referee would be horrendous - second leg at Anfield of course.

Option 1 is looking more and more tempting.
 
Honestly have mixed feelings about them progressing or not. On the one hand if they progress it keeps alive the unlikely, but possible scenario of '6 times' occurring. You know they'd draw the weakest group winners in the next round then who knows what a post January transfer window liverpool would look like. Most likely outcome, however, is that they would go out to the first decent team they met. There's also a good chance they may not make top 4 in the league.

If they drop out into the Europa, however,they are straight into the knockout stages, with a favourable draw, of a weak competition that allows the winners entry into next seasons champions league. I don't even want to get into the murky world of the lengths Uefa would go to to ensure one of their cash cows returned to the herd (the TNS draw springs to mind) but I wouldn't put a bit of favourable refereeing and some easy draws past them. Also the prospect of a cup derby with a uefa referee would be horrendous - second leg at Anfield of course.

Option 1 is looking more and more tempting.

Positives - They had never conceded a goal v Madrid till this season. As mentioned, this is not a Liverpool team we are used to.
Downside is that we still looked disjointed at Anfield and needed a thunderbolt at the death to draw level.
Europe would be a great place to give them a good hiding though IF the scenario came to pass.
 
How does the knockout round draw work? Are group winners guaranteed not to face a CL club dropping down?
 
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