Time to Protest.......???????

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Sharpys top lip said:
IS IT ACCEPTABLE THAT..........



  • Our ground is falling apart around us
  • we have had numerous failed ground moves
  • We are in 50m + debt
  • Our season tickets are mortgaged out for the foreseeable future
  • We have spent NO Money in the last 3 years (probebly more)
  • Senior players are leaving and not replaced
  • We dont own our training ground
  • We have wealthy board members that will not put any Money in
  • We are lied to constantly about whats going on by our Chairman
  • Ian Ross still has a job at Everton
  • More lies from Bill
  • Other clubs have been took over twice while bill has been looking 24/7
  • Ian Ross still has a job at Everton
  • Clubs much smaller than our that have been ran right are outspending us by far
  • Ian Ross still has a job at Everton

And there's plenty more i could put in.

If you answer no to all these IT'S TIME TO PROTEST....
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this......^^^^^^
 
I'm hearing ya Sharpey, and good luck with anything you try to organise or help come up with, we do need a change in the background, hell I wouldn't mind if the replacements had the same little amount of cash as Kenwrong does, I just want to see honesty in the way we are run. The AGM should never ever have been closed to the public in my opinion.
 
The only thing i can think of to get the ball rolling is a petition and try to get it in the papers and on the news .

something has to be done .
 

davek said:
You might not be able to remember them but they happened. As for the consequences of those revolts: investment is what you make of it I suppose. If you employ the wrong people to spend it then you end up in the shit like Liverpool under Benitez.

You say you dont think protests achieve anything. Right, ok. But what does accepting the status quo do? What does that achieve? If this was a few years ago after finishing 17th you could conceivably say that the new(ish) regime had to be given time to unfold plans and the manager allowed to steadily build the squad. 6 years later we know the board has nothing to offer and Moyes is not able to build.

I really think the burden of explanation rests with you. So, over to you: what will sticking with Kenwright, Earl and Woods achieve for the club?
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1) To be fair i dont and im not bad with remembering stuff like that, not saying they didnt happen but i dont remember it praticularly as the advent of fan power overthrowing regimes. Intresting Villa and City, if the protests led to Shinawtra and Lerner coming in - more fools them, the two of them heaped a couple of million of debt onto the clubs books, Shinawtra did well for himself despite being in it "for the long term" while Learners Villa are a ticking time bomb IMO

2) I agree, either investment or growing the infrastructure of the club is essential to grow the cost base, presently we're full tilt but every penny goes back into the club, if it wasnt then i think a protest may be justified, but prob wouldnt acheive a whole lot. Im not sure what your asking here, the dogs in the street know we need investment and a new ground, the guys that you want to protest about admit it. What do you want them say, sorry we're not billionaire and release a statement of accounts to show you we're all the money during the year goes - oh wait they do. Or are you expecting a white sheik to come rideing up Goodison road when fans start waveing plackards saying "Giizza Billion".


3) Thank you for ansewring my question in detail, ok you didnt but i didnt expect you had an answer really. I expect what we have seen, over the course of their tenure, slow and steady progress, i look at them as cutodians of the club and safe hands untill we either have investment or invest in infrastructure. We have been able to increase our cost base almost every year they have been there in turn keeping prob our best players - the whole squad are on new and improved deals at a massive cost, i think sometimes are fans are to fixed on looking at where they want to be and not the awfullness of were we were. I expect them to do whats right for the club and not sell us down the river to a Hicks or Gillet, Venky or Learner. I expect them to make incremental progress without putting the club in jepordy as is the case at other clubs and when the time comes leave us in a healtheir postion then they found us. If at a point the veare and i feel they are putting the club at risk i will change that opinion - for instance if we spent 24 mill on Darren Bent and that money was from borrowing, i would criticise them prob wouldnt advocate for them in the same way, despite most of our fans being chuffed to bits.

I beleive i told you this inertia would happen when Kirkby was turned down, i beleive my words "we would stagnate to the sound of thunderous applause" at the time. We are we're threading water, we have hit a glass ceiling, what did people expect.
 
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/ever...once-more-against-west-ham-100252-28042103/2/

"The Kenwright critics will instantly point the finger at the boardroom, which is far too simplistic.
It’s no secret that Everton is up for sale. Yet not one single party has lodged one firm bid, or even openly expressed interest in buying the Blues, since Paul Gregg tried to spark civil war in 2004.
And until new investment materialises (and would Evertonians really relish interest from a group like, say, Venky’s – who post statements on their Facebook page that they plan to sign Ronaldinho for Blackburn Rovers, then take the comments down?) David Moyes will have to continue to juggle the modest resources at his disposal."


Pretty much sums up the local media and their reaction to any questioning of our board of directors.







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Neiler said:
3) Thank you for ansewring my question in detail, ok you didnt but i didnt expect you had an answer really. I expect what we have seen, over the course of their tenure, slow and steady progress, i look at them as cutodians of the club and safe hands untill we either have investment or invest in infrastructure. We have been able to increase our cost base almost every year they have been there in turn keeping prob our best players - the whole squad are on new and improved deals at a massive cost, i think sometimes are fans are to fixed on looking at where they want to be and not the awfullness of were we were. I expect them to do whats right for the club and not sell us down the river to a Hicks or Gillet, Venky or Learner. I expect them to make incremental progress without putting the club in jepordy as is the case at other clubs and when the time comes leave us in a healtheir postion then they found us. If at a point the veare and i feel they are putting the club at risk i will change that opinion - for instance if we spent 24 mill on Darren Bent and that money was from borrowing, i would criticise them prob wouldnt advocate for them in the same way, despite most of our fans being chuffed to bits.

I beleive i told you this inertia would happen when Kirkby was turned down, i beleive my words "we would stagnate to the sound of thunderous applause" at the time. We are we're threading water, we have hit a glass ceiling, what did people expect.
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  • You expect 'the steady progress' that we've seen thus far? Ten years after BK took over we're selling our better players and we lie 13th in the league. Behave yourself.

  • 'Custodians of the club and a safe pair of hands'? The same board of directors that abandoned a century-long tradition of accountability to shareholders, and the same board that allowed an offshore group owned by God knows who to determine the control of the club? Are you sure you're using the right 'c' word to describe those actions?

  • So, sticking with Kenwright and co. will avoid 'putting the club in jeopardy like Hicks, Venky and Lerner did'? Aren't you a little previous on Venky? I'd give them a chance before you start comparing Kenwright with them (Psst - they're signing players and are above us in the league - maybe getting shut of Allardyce wasn't a bad thing?); as for Lerner: yes, you're right, he's obvioulsy plundered that club. Lol! He may well do in the end, but the evidence so far doesn't back you up does it?; Hicks? Took a gamble in giving a warchest to an incompetent manager...would that we were ever in a position to do that! And remind me how that episode turned out? Oh yeah, Liverpool walked away with zero debt and a fresh start.

  • "...and when the time comes leave us in a healtheir postion then they found us." What, like now? We're in debt to the tune of almost £40M short term debt and have the securitization interest repayments of another £35M to be spread over 25 years (comes under 'annual servicing of securitization). What was the debt when Kenwright and Tru Blue took over from Johnson? £20M. And on Kenwright's watch we've sold the training facilities at bellefield and Netherton and now lease out Finch Farm. We have no assets whatsoever...they've all been sold. If you consider all that as leaving the club in a healthier position you need your head feeling.

You're trying to plait sawdust here trying to defend the indefensible. It's little wonder you cant make a single point stick, nor that you cant reasonably carve out a case for the continuance of this absentee landlordism that's got the club on its knees.

Hopeless.
 
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