The return of David Moyes

[Jeff Jones]

Of course not. But why would we now the stadium is built. The extra revenue streams are now available which will help us compete against the so called bigger teams. Bizarre comment.

Staying at Goodison limited how far we could go.

Extra revenue streams are now available? I suppose they will be, but are they now? I'm worried about PSR. We've just paid out Dyche and brought Moyes in. Are we starting fresh with PSR or will this spending count with last Summers' spending?

 

[Macker07]

Did Johnyy Heitinga play for Moyes, maybe he'd leave the RS and come home with Moyes?

 

[mccole]

I look at the squad and it's a good fit for Moyes.

Obviously we could have better players but Moyes tends to set up around 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.

Defence

We have a perfect platform for Moyes. Pickford is one of the top 5 keepers in the league and last season's back four was one of the best. Now we know Moyes likes a wingback so Patterson will definitely see more playing time but Mykolenko needs to kick those shackles taken off or need replacing. Also Coleman and Young both fit so options/people who can stay of play there.

Left back is a tricky position but if someone comes available on loan or for a low fee I'd be tempted

Centre back choice are covered with Tarkowski, Branthwaite, O'Brien and Keane so we can even move to a 3 pairing at the back should we need.

Midfield

Now we are treading on thin ground. Mangala and Gueye have been mainstay of late which hasn't been amazing due to the lack of creativity. We have James Garner and Tim Iroegbunam BACK ON THE GRASS (RIP Sean) plus the leggy force of Doucoure.

I think this is a perfect opportunity to improve the team. Onana would have been a Moyes key player and someone we never really replaced so if we could add some additional height and strength to the centre.

Attack

Oh dear how the cookie crumbles. If Moyes continues his 4-2-3-1 that 3 will be vital for us.

We have Ndiaye (Pienaar) and McNeil (Osman) who is Moyes' players 101 but then we are scrapping the barrel.

Another positive that needs addressing ASAP is left midfield. Harrison and Lindstrom have the attributes but just too lightweight and nowhere near what we need.

Looking at Broja's injury plus Chermiti out, we are again pinning out hope on a struggling striker who has less then 6 months. Do we want to keep DCL? I think Moyes would like him especially when the other option is Beto who is linked away.

So we need to address the elephant in the room that is Dom's contract plus add to our striker force.

Conclusion
Left Back
Centre Midfielder
Right Winger
Striker

We have a good squad that has underperforming and lacking confidence in attack. We need a boost that fire up our season fast and removing Dyche is the correct decision so now we need to back Moyes with money which was the problem last time so here's hoping he can find some gems like yesteryear.

 

[T Bone]

Apart from Carlo, Moyes is the best Everton manager this century, wouldn't necessarily have been my first choice but now he's here I hope he shuts up the moaney arses. utft.

Ah ha!! I see you using manipulative language. This century only means the last 25 years.. so that..yenoe...oh.

 

[DayL08]

Extra revenue streams are now available? I suppose they will be, but are they now? I'm worried about PSR. We've just paid out Dyche and brought Moyes in. Are we starting fresh with PSR or will this spending count with last Summers' spending?

They will count to this year. But PSR as we know it is supposed to be going at the end of the year.

However even if they don’t change it we will be able to throw sponsorship of the stadium as a source of income on the books this year if needs be.

 

[T Bone]

I think he’s the right man at the right time and a safe bet for the job that needs done. Ultimately, Everton need to stay up and bets have been hedged.

If he hangs around for a while and we have to put up with finishing 5th-8th for a few seasons I can handle that.

Finishing 5th???? I think I'm going to puke.

Moyes out!

 

[Sharpys top lip]

 

[Jamiednm]

It’s not exciting but we now have a better manager than our previous one.

He’s won more silverware than Everton over the last 12 years, so I’m looking forward to him bringing that culture of glory in to the fold and getting his winning presence saturating and percolating in to the bones of the club. Everton have been an impotent shower of flops for too long, it’d be nice for them to at least offer up the footballing equivalent of a semi-erection, if not a full blown lob-on for a change.

 

[Connor mcloud]

I probably fall into the ‘best of what we could have gone for” category with this appointment and in true Everton style, my mind is doing ten to the dozen to convince myself that this is a very wise decision and one that will the first building block of a very positive next few years. My blind optimism initially is based on just the following:
Moyes appreciates a good solid defensive system with centre half’s who do the basics well - he already has that in place so he does not need to alter between now and end of season
Full Backs - this is a guy who brought in and developed the 2 best full backs in our recent history in Baines & Pienaar. He knows what the fans want so unless Mykolenko gets on the magic pills ASAP, I’d imagine Moyes will have Thelwell in a chair, pulp fiction stylee, to get out there and enhance what we have.
Midfield - can’t see funds allowing much change with Garner, Ireogbunam coming back, but Moyes appreciated the need for a central midfielder who could actually pass a fookin ball! He will have arteta standards in mind
The unknown - Can’t see Moyes allowing Calvert-Lewin to wind down for rest of the season so can he eek any more out of him, between now and seasons end
PSR - nobody has a clue where we stand, but we bid for likes of that Nuamah (apparently) in the summer without success so reckon there is scope to deal. In what is probably our most important transfer window in recent history, I’d much rather Moyes made the call than Dyche
Thankyou for listening to my pitch, I’d like ten pints and a toothless brass for 20% of my business ??

Worth reading for the last 2 lines

 

[Bilko]

If only Villa and Forest had known this before doing daft things like showing ambition or trying to qualify for the champions league.

It's a very good and fair point, but I don't think either of them has had the troubles of Everton over the last decade. If what I'm reading is right, we were selling players to pay bills.
The stadium, while needed ,nearly levelled us, poor decisions being made by the board , everyone on this forum knows where we have been and despaired for a long time.

I believe we need to take stock , learn from this awful period for Everton build from the ground up and get things in order it isn't going to happen overnight.

Just my opinion ,obviously.

 

[Harryflashman]

I don’t agree with this idea and never have. Nobody wants us to be where we are, nobody really thinks staying up is an achievement.

The reality is we’re not a good side and we haven’t been a particularly good side for a very very long time now. This whole ‘we should demand The best because we’re Everton’ shtick is a bit MAGA for me to be honest. I’m 40 and I’ve seen us win one trophy, what’s the point in me saying I’m only ever going to be happy when we’re at the very top of the game? What do I get out of that?

At the end of the day I chose to support the club and if they’re crap then they’re crap, what can I do? I haven’t been conditioned or brainwashed, I just have to take what I get because that’s what being a football fan is. We aren’t special because we won some trophies in the past, the reality is we’re an also ran and there’s nothing I can do to change it, so I either take the small victories when I can, stop supporting them altogether, or become a pent up ball of impotent rage because I can’t live vicariously through my football team. I choose option 1.

Oh absolutely I love the small victories , I can’t remember what time I got home after the derby .

We are also rans and I find that painful , I understand you don’t but I don’t like it .

I was addressing the club as a whole really , across the board , and I really do think those at its core who can change it responsible to be honest . As much as I , or I imagine you , would love a shift in Everton’s fortunes we can’t do anything. Those in boardrooms , dugouts and on the pitch can and I firmly believe that those people have become accustomed to celebrating mediocrity and yes as a fanbase we’ve been dragged along . I was In the boozer til silly o’clock with hundreds of others after palace for example , although the urge to ‘celebrate ‘ wore a bit thin by Bournemouth.

I also think it’s probably natural to have celebrated those moments , rather than that we’ve been brainwashed because without them what would we have done ? It’s been painful enough being a blue so without that brief joy it’d have been brutal . My issue I suppose is that it leaked into us to such an extent that survival became the aim . Every year our expectations have dropped , remember after Wimbledon the ‘never again ‘ how ridiculous does that comment look now ?

Ultimately it’s all about opinions isn’t it , I’d like more for this club and I hoped this new regime would signal a chance of that in our future. It may still happen but the appointment of Moyes , for me , seems to indicate for the short term at least that the Everton of bill Kenwright seems to be here for a bit longer .

I hope I’m not a ball of rage , pent up or otherwise and as for impotent than god for Pfizer .

 

[Harryflashman]

Agree. Our fans are in large part to blame. Howe and Nuno not good enough. Hounded out Marco Silva..

Whatever manager we ever get in, is never good enough..

While I think there is a kernel of truth to your post I also think there has been some rewriting of history with silva . I think he’s proving to be a very decent manager but when he got the bullet we were 18th battered by the RS on the back of defeats by Norwich (h) , Sheff Utd (h) and Burnley we looked poor .

I think he’d been let down by recruitment but it wasn’t working for him them , like with nuno at spurs some managers don’t really work at some clubs . I think it was on the blue room where they said silva was the right manager at the wrong time .

 

[T Bone]

As if going backwards and appointing Moyes was bad enough they have this thick melt on to talk about it. What the world must think of us with him as a spokesperson for the fans. He doesn’t speak for me that’s for sure.

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I remember I was trying to start a YouTube channel and realised toffee TV trounced me and there was no way I was going to over take them.

Its time you get out of that faze. I am here to take your hand when ready.

 

[RD2910]

I know people are pointing out past achievements and stuff but the entire fabric of the premier league is totally different today to what it was when he joined and subsequently left. It’s a different sport and it’s no longer quite as “simple” as a bad team getting some good players in to get good, especially when the league has a massive hard on for Everton atm.

I think you're overblowing how different the Premier League is to be honest, it was only 12 years ago that he left. Different to when he joined certainly, but he was there as it was changing.

He was a relatively successful Premier League manager last season anyway. It's not like we've dug him up from complete obscurity.

 

[pink toffees]

I look at the squad and it's a good fit for Moyes.

Obviously we could have better players but Moyes tends to set up around 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.

Defence

We have a perfect platform for Moyes. Pickford is one of the top 5 keepers in the league and last season's back four was one of the best. Now we know Moyes likes a wingback so Patterson will definitely see more playing time but Mykolenko needs to kick those shackles taken off or need replacing. Also Coleman and Young both fit so options/people who can stay of play there.

Left back is a tricky position but if someone comes available on loan or for a low fee I'd be tempted

Centre back choice are covered with Tarkowski, Branthwaite, O'Brien and Keane so we can even move to a 3 pairing at the back should we need.

Midfield

Now we are treading on thin ground. Mangala and Gueye have been mainstay of late which hasn't been amazing due to the lack of creativity. We have James Garner and Tim Iroegbunam BACK ON THE GRASS (RIP Sean) plus the leggy force of Doucoure.

I think this is a perfect opportunity to improve the team. Onana would have been a Moyes key player and someone we never really replaced so if we could add some additional height and strength to the centre.

Attack

Oh dear how the cookie crumbles. If Moyes continues his 4-2-3-1 that 3 will be vital for us.

We have Ndiaye (Pienaar) and McNeil (Osman) who is Moyes' players 101 but then we are scrapping the barrel.

Another positive that needs addressing ASAP is left midfield. Harrison and Lindstrom have the attributes but just too lightweight and nowhere near what we need.

Looking at Broja's injury plus Chermiti out, we are again pinning out hope on a struggling striker who has less then 6 months. Do we want to keep DCL? I think Moyes would like him especially when the other option is Beto who is linked away.

So we need to address the elephant in the room that is Dom's contract plus add to our striker force.

Conclusion
Left Back
Centre Midfielder
Right Winger
Striker

We have a good squad that has underperforming and lacking confidence in attack. We need a boost that fire up our season fast and removing Dyche is the correct decision so now we need to back Moyes with money which was the problem last time so here's hoping he can find some gems like yesteryear.

Very good piece on the playing squad. I do think TFG will spend in Jan if they need too. They then have until July to get some money back. If you go down PSR wont matter as it will be a disaster commercially. I would expect any signings coming in to be approved by Moyes not Thelwell. Rumours about Thelwell is going too. What we think we need maybe not what Moyes thinks he wants. How he plays and uses the players at his disposal now will be interesting. The 2.5 year contract IMO is to say to any potential signing this is the manager you will be playing for.