The Power Shift On Merseyside

[Allezfan]

I'm not proud that everton finished 7th, btw, but by god I'm also not admiring a team who finished 8th and hasn't been in the top 5 for three years.

 

[carlos_the_jackal]

it has got wider.
they are planning a new stadium or major redevelopment, our chairman is scarmongering to the fans telling them goodson may lose its safety certificate.
they can splash (and waste) tens of millions of pounds on players, we have spent less than we got in for jack rodwell.
they have genuine world class players, we dont.
they want to win trophys and compete for the title, our chairman and alot of our fans think finishing above them is like winning the league.
they have a brilliant sponsorship deal, merchandise deal, tv show, etc - we have kitbag giving us a small set fee and thailands version of skol throwing us some loose change (in premier league terms).

the gap is growing, because we got plucky and finished 7th is an embarassment compared to the club and team we where in the 80's.
7TH!
its not worth talking about or remembering, no one will.

7th shouldn't be the ceiling to our hopes or our expectations but it's an improvement on the times when being safe by Easter was seen as an achievement.

 

[Slavan]

I want to have a threesome with the cast of Supernatural, mate, it ain't going to happen.

You judge a team by how they do on the pitch and their team is not a title challenging team. Like I said their league record over the last year is relegation form. They can spend what money they like and talk up their chances as much as they like, until they start winning games I won't care.

We've playing vastly better than them at the moment.

so your whole argument rests on the last year league form?

wow, i would rather come 8th and get to 2 finals and win 1 cup.
but if 7th and lifting the 'higher than the kopites' trophy is what matters to you, then i apologise.

 

[Slavan]

I'm not proud that everton finished 7th, btw, but by god I'm also not admiring a team who finished 8th and hasn't been in the top 5 for three years.

no one is admiring them, just pointing out the facts.

 

[peteblue]

At the moment we have the better team and manager. But DEM YANKS can splash the cash in January if they want and either make them better or give us all a good laugh. Either way we should have a better season than them in the league......

 

[Goat]

Yes, but that will never happen, precisely because of Liverpool's financial strength compared to us. The only way there would be a real 'power shift' is if we were to finish in the top four and then couple that financial reward with board investment to cement our position above them. This current state of affairs isn't a power shift, it's a result of Liverpool employing a manager who wasted £100m+ on average players.

Imagine if they bought actual footballers with that 100m+, scary thought and then imagine what Moyes could have done with half of that.

 

[Slavan]

I've read the title to this thread about 7 times now and on 6 of those it's said 'The Power Sh*t on Merseryside'

Which is funny because I'm having a power sh*t right now as I write this.

hand one before, caused by a lemsip max strength.

 

[Goat]

At the moment we have the better team and manager. But DEM YANKS can splash the cash in January if they want and either make them better or give us all a good laugh. Either way we should have a better season than them in the league......

I personally think dem yanks have closed the purse strings.

 

[EFCNIK]

Yer mar last season:

Yer mar 3

Yer dar 0

Right, that's it.

[video=youtube;WA4iX5D9Z64]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64[/video]

 

[Kurt.]

I was going to defend you in the thread where you were getting threatened with the ban hammer and now this ffs. WHY

I love you really you argumentative fool xx

 

[Allezfan]

so your whole argument rests on the last year league form?

wow, i would rather come 8th and get to 2 finals and win 1 cup.
but if 7th and lifting the 'higher than the kopites' trophy is what matters to you, then i apologise.

I would rather have their season than ours too.

But they've gone from finishing 2nd and 3rd to, 6th, 7th, and 8th and currently being 14th. That's ****. That's really ****.

You're doing the usual self pitying knife to a gun fight crap where we just surrender to the bastards based on their name and their income. No, I don't care how much they've spent they're a bad team at the moment and we have no excuses for not overtaking them on the pitch.

 

[carlos_the_jackal]

At the moment we have the better team and manager. But DEM YANKS can splash the cash in January if they want and either make them better or give us all a good laugh. Either way we should have a better season than them in the league......

As long as when they do splash the cash they're paying out £15m+ for players worth less than half that.

 

[Ihaters]

think the original post is totally wrong, there has been no power shift, on the contrary, the gap has got wider in real terms.

judge it by the commerical revenue, judge it buy the transfer activity, judge it by the on the pitch and off the pitch ambition, judge it by the fan numbers, but dont use some selective stats.

im sorry, but where miles behind liverpool as a club, and the constant obsession with comparing ourselves to them is embarassing.

I would normally agree but there is something a bit different about their team and more importantly about our team this year, we look good and its still early. We are actually playing football, the likes of which (in places) any team would be happy with.
I would have to point out that you talk about their bigger ambition but shoot down the thought of us doing well.
You talk about their on the pitch ambition yet they finished below us last season, you talk selective stats but fail to acknowledge how much closer to them we have been of late, including last season when we finished above them but you still seem to see us as stuck long term in their shadow. This team is more than capable of casting its own shadow this season and it could well be a shadow that well and truly envelopes that shed nearby.
Honestly I would say we are getting bigger and they are getting smaller. Their revenue will be bigger than ours for decades but as a team I would say we are on the front foot now and it is they that are going to have to start punching above their weight to catch us.
Optomistic? blue tinted? hopefull? Wishfull thinking? Maybe..
Unfounded?.. not at all.

 

[peteblue]

it has got wider.
they are planning a new stadium or major redevelopment, our chairman is scarmongering to the fans telling them goodson may lose its safety certificate.
they can splash (and waste) tens of millions of pounds on players, we have spent less than we got in for jack rodwell.
they have genuine world class players, we dont.
they want to win trophys and compete for the title, our chairman and alot of our fans think finishing above them is like winning the league.
they have a brilliant sponsorship deal, merchandise deal, tv show, etc - we have kitbag giving us a small set fee and thailands version of skol throwing us some loose change (in premier league terms).

the gap is growing, because we got plucky and finished 7th is an embarassment compared to the club and team we where in the 80's.
7TH!
its not worth talking about or remembering, no one will.

You wouldn't care to name these World Class players would you.......

 

[Allezfan]

You wouldn't care to name these World Class players would you.......

They don't have a single player as good as either Fellaini or Baines.