The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

[Bkk Andy]

We got fourth with Tiny Tim, Marcus Bent and some 'play for ev' raffle winner called Eddy Bosnar. VAR won't allow such a big fluke again, but who says we need to spend big to finally break into the top half?

We'll barely have enough players to put out an 11 next season and this level of points per game won't last forever. We need to spend big.

 

[Bkk Andy]

I hope you are right, but I'd take that bet all day long. I do not think 31 points keeps you in the Prem this season, not with 1/3 of the season to go and 36 points to play for almost all teams. (NB: not saying we'll get relegated, just that we realistically need 6/7/8 more points from 12 games to get across the line).

3 points max will guarantee it.

 

[MikeH72]

I hope you are right, but I'd take that bet all day long. I do not think 31 points keeps you in the Prem this season, not with 1/3 of the season to go and 36 points to play for almost all teams. (NB: not saying we'll get relegated, just that we realistically need 6/7/8 more points from 12 games to get across the line).

Can you please expand further and let us know who out of the bottom 3 is getting 35 points and in which fixtures are these points coming in?

 

[MikeH72]

This team earned enough points for 12th last season. We were lucky last season with injuries. 4 points behind a much better, Moyes' West Ham side.

It'll float between 12th-17th next season too - lower end if injuries.

If we really want to move away from the wrong end of the table, we need to spend big, and well this summer.

We’ve had loads of injuries since Moyes came in?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

We’ve had loads of injuries since Moyes came in?

A season is also 38 games.

 

[ToffeeScot]

This team earned enough points for 12th last season. We were lucky last season with injuries. 4 points behind a much better, Moyes' West Ham side.

It'll float between 12th-17th next season too - lower end if injuries.

If we really want to move away from the wrong end of the table, we need to spend big, and well this summer.

The current squad is 12th-17th, granted, but transfer activity this summer, along with the manager we have at the helm, should push that up into the 8th-14th range.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

I’m still old school. We’ve had too much pain and strife these last few years, even though it feels like we’ve got enough now.

Get us our 40 points asap please Davey, then everyone can talk safe, even though it’s more than likely already done.

So much nicer to be looking up and dreaming about Europe etc, than fretting about relegation.

I like to think at times am above it all but it really does effect me mentally being down there in a relegation fight.

I think the anxiety of the last few season has been even more heighten because you felt our very survival as a football club has been linked with staying in the league.

I think after that Leicester game I started relax,actually enjoy and look forward to us playing. It's nice feeling that this moment in time.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I’m still old school. We’ve had too much pain and strife these last few years, even though it feels like we’ve got enough now.

Get us our 40 points asap please Davey, then everyone can talk safe, even though it’s more than likely already done.

So much nicer to be looking up and dreaming about Europe etc, than fretting about relegation.

Understandable mate given how many seasons in succession we've been in that scrap now.

But no chance we're in danger now. We can log off until August...

 

[Tipp blue]

I hope you are right, but I'd take that bet all day long. I do not think 31 points keeps you in the Prem this season, not with 1/3 of the season to go and 36 points to play for almost all teams. (NB: not saying we'll get relegated, just that we realistically need 6/7/8 more points from 12 games to get across the line).

Which of the bottom 3 is getting to 30+ points? They've managed to move the bottom 3 up 1 point from 16 to 17 in 6 games now you recon there's a chance that one of the bottom 3 is getting 20 or more points in 12 games... come on lad this season will have the lowest ever total needed to stay up, could be as low as 24 or 25 points.

 

[Bilko]

I like to think at times am above it all but it really does effect me mentally being down there in a relegation fight.

I think the anxiety of the last few season has been even more heighten because you felt our very survival as a football club has been linked with staying in the league.

I think after that Leicester game I started relax,actually enjoy and look forward to us playing. It's nice feeling that this moment in time.

Totally agree, even yesterday for me was just a really good game of football involving Everton. While my team didn't win ,I'm not stressed, disappointed, or even pee'd off. I've no need to go following other results from teams about us. It's been a while !.

 

[NathDogg]

Understandable mate given how many seasons in succession we've been in that scrap now.

But no chance we're in danger now. We can log off until August...

Hope so, I think you and others are right, but it’s the ptsd from recent seasons holding me back!

Massive summer ahead for us, hope TFG are up to it.

 

[Amokachi1995]

Hope so, I think you and others are right, but it’s the ptsd from recent seasons holding me back!

Massive summer ahead for us, hope TFG are up to it.

I totally get where you are coming from but barring a points deduction we're safe. Would need two teams to go on an amazing run and for us to get close to zero points in 12 games. Something even Mike Walker avoided.

I still managed to feel stressed yesterday like. Just a different kind of stress.

 

[MikeH72]

A season is also 38 games.

Yes but how often is a player injured for the entire season? I don’t think we’ve had a fully fit squad available at any point this season have we?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yes but how often is a player injured for the entire season? I don’t think we’ve had a fully fit squad available at any point this season have we?

It's not about entire season. The view is this squad is 12th-17th, and will differ between those places depending on fortune with injuries. For example, take Branthwaite out for a long duration and it'll impact. We have threadbare squad/lack depth. There's also not a massive amount of points between the places.

To move to comfortable midtable and above, the squad needs investment that it's not had for 3-5 years.

 

[brieverton]

I like to think at times am above it all but it really does effect me mentally being down there in a relegation fight.

I think the anxiety of the last few season has been even more heighten because you felt our very survival as a football club has been linked with staying in the league.

I think after that Leicester game I started relax,actually enjoy and look forward to us playing. It's nice feeling that this moment in time.

I'm not worried about relegation, but I'm always worried about the club in some form, even though with the events of the last few years I think most of us had to pull back a little mentally and just hope for the best in the midst of constant struggle and bad news. I know I did anyway.

The whole "Everton, that" thing is quite ingrained in the fanbase. We have renewed hope now and TFG have to grasp that and really try to push us forward.

I take great pride that the club stayed together in the hardest of times and we are coming out the other side with the new stadium and renewed hope. I want us to be up there and part of the conversation though, to be relevant. There is still a story to be written, in how we overcame what we did for the purpose of winning things again. Let's hope we have the right people here to lead us to it.