The new new David Moyes Poll

[Swartzy]

Looks like Moyes is fighting back, he's pulled in another 5 backers overnight.

 

[davids]

Well Moyes had £125 million to change that and didn't, so let's get rid of him and give Iraola £125 million plus any player sales and see what he can do.

First he'd need to get rid of the dead wood,not an easy task. Think about it two fullbacks,two central defenders a new holding midfielder two strikers a fast direct winger all for just north of £125 million. You're expecting miracles.

 

[AdamMcG2000]

By the way, you've had your lot on Moyes now from the club. That's their statement and they expect you to decipher it anyway you want. They wont be mentioning Moyes again this summer. They left it vague about contracts and that's that. They'll leave all the speculation now t fans and just buy a few players (after a fashion) and then start next season with Moyes in the dugout.

No clarity. Nothing. Just like with the ST price increases: "Here's what's happening". End of debate.

You’re probably right, but surely they’ve got to double down on him and offer him an extension then.

 

[davek]

You’re probably right, but surely they’ve got to double down on him and offer him an extension then.

They may do, but they wont announce it this summer. What advantage would they get from that? They'll surely know how fans feel right now.

Never explain, never apologise.

Get used to this culture from this shower, it's here to stay.

 

[davids]

We will need to sign a bunch of players in any case. Whether Moyes stays, Iraola or Glasner or whoever else comes in, the squad needs a lot of work.

Already said in another post it's all about perspective. You see that as a reason to keep Moyes but for me its just another reason to get rid. Moyes will want senior players, ready to plug and play which is more expensive, and suited to his style which is questionable if he leaves at the end of his contract. In theory Iraola would want younger, more affordable development players, and would be more willing to work with those already at the club such as Aznou, Alcaraz, Armstrong, Dibling.

He'd need more than those four,and would need to shift the rubbish we already have. Plus it's reported his family want to come back to Spain. Glasner maybe for the bunch we have but I think he's destined for bigger things than us. It's more than wanting to play progressive football, Martinez did that and to a lesser extent Silva. Unless you have unlimited funds it's not possible in the Prem now. Yes I'm not happy with Moyes but with the squad we have I honestly can't see a workable alternative. Better another season working towards qualifying for one of the lesser European trophies than a gung-ho charge that could end in disaster. We could have easily been there this year without some glaring individual mistakes on the pitch which I'm sure Moyes doesn't coach them to do.

 

[preposterousvelios]

He'd need more than those four,and would need to shift the rubbish we already have. Plus it's reported his family want to come back to Spain. Glasner maybe for the bunch we have but I think he's destined for bigger things than us. It's more than wanting to play progressive football, Martinez did that and to a lesser extent Silva. Unless you have unlimited funds it's not possible in the Prem now. Yes I'm not happy with Moyes but with the squad we have I honestly can't see a workable alternative. Better another season working towards qualifying for one of the lesser European trophies than a gung-ho charge that could end in disaster. We could have easily been there this year without some glaring individual mistakes on the pitch which I'm sure Moyes doesn't coach them to do.

Sorry but it just seems like you will poke holes in anything that isn't Moyes. Not saying he wouldn't need more than just those four players but the certainly makes a difference to the number of the signings we need to make and the profile of those signings.

Iraola has got Bournemouth into the Champions League this season on a much more limited budget than what he would have here while playing progressive football so not sure how you can say that it's not possible unless you have an unlimited budget. And stories of him wanting to go back to Spain are nonsense, he passed on the Bilbao job and is deciding between a few options on England.

And the stuff about glaring individual mistakes.... No one forced Moyes to stick with the same back 4, and particularly a centre back pairing that ships goals for fun. Seemingly everyone other than Moyes knew was a big issue. Drives me mad the idea that Moyes can't be blamed for the failures of the players when he's the one picking them.

 

[Lanolin]

Sorry but it just seems like you will poke holes in anything that isn't Moyes. Not saying he wouldn't need more than just those four players but the certainly makes a difference to the number of the signings we need to make and the profile of those signings.

Iraola has got Bournemouth into the Champions League this season on a much more limited budget than what he would have here while playing progressive football so not sure how you can say that it's not possible unless you have an unlimited budget. And stories of him wanting to go back to Spain are nonsense, he passed on the Bilbao job and is deciding between a few options on England.

And the stuff about glaring individual mistakes.... No one forced Moyes to stick with the same back 4, and particularly a centre back pairing that ships goals for fun. Seemingly everyone other than Moyes knew was a big issue. Drives me mad the idea that Moyes can't be blamed for the failures of the players when he's the one picking them.

I've always found this a very frustrating trait when people are talking about managers. It obviously works both ways, he's not the one making mistakes on the pitch but nor is he the one producing match winning moments out there. Either he gets praised for stuff that goes well and stick for stuff that doesn't or he gets neither, you can't credit him as if he's responsible for the good stuff if he doesn't have to take the same responsibility for the bad.

 

[davids]

Sorry but it just seems like you will poke holes in anything that isn't Moyes. Not saying he wouldn't need more than just those four players but the certainly makes a difference to the number of the signings we need to make and the profile of those signings.

Iraola has got Bournemouth into the Champions League this season on a much more limited budget than what he would have here while playing progressive football so not sure how you can say that it's not possible unless you have an unlimited budget. And stories of him wanting to go back to Spain are nonsense, he passed on the Bilbao job and is deciding between a few options on England.

And the stuff about glaring individual mistakes.... No one forced Moyes to stick with the same back 4, and particularly a centre back pairing that ships goals for fun. Seemingly everyone other than Moyes knew was a big issue. Drives me mad the idea that Moyes can't be blamed for the failures of the players when he's the one picking them.

Well for a start one of the two central defenders who ship goals for fun would have to have played. If Glasner leaves Palace and Newcastle sack Howe do you honestly think Iraola would pick us before either of them? Oh and the glaring mistakes we're not all in our half of the pitch. We have to face facts,our squad is average to poor compared with the rest of the Prem and we'll finish the season exactly where that squad would have whoever was managing.

 

[riddick]

Drives me mad the idea that Moyes can't be blamed for the failures of the players when he's the one picking them.

 

[preposterousvelios]

Well for a start one of the two central defenders who ship goals for fun would have to have played. If Glasner leaves Palace and Newcastle sack Howe do you honestly think Iraola would pick us before either of them? Oh and the glaring mistakes we're not all in our half of the pitch. We have to face facts,our squad is average to poor compared with the rest of the Prem and we'll finish the season exactly where that squad would have whoever was managing.

One of Keane and Tarkowski can play, they've done fine when paired with O'Brien or Branthwaite. It's being paired together that truly exacerbates their worst qualities.

And yeah I 100% believe that Iraola picks us over Palace if we ask the question. Our fans get so down on where we're at as a club they lose all objectivity. We're a far bigger club than Palace, richer owners, bigger stadium, bigger fanbase, potential for much higher revenue and spending.

Iraola has turned down a massive contract from Bournemouth so he can build a side without having his best players sold every summer. He's not going to want to go to Palace where Glasner is leaving for the exact same reason. Newcastle a different conversation but we would still be in with a shot and could offer him a bit more of a clean slate with less rubbish players on massive wages than Newcastle have atm. In any case we should surely be asking the question.

I'll not argue with you that there's big improvements to be made to our squad this summer but thats not any different under Moyes, and I would much rather someone other than him gets given the money to address that considering his spending at West Ham and the poor use this season of the players signed last summer.

 

[NeilMorepies]

Looks like Moyes is fighting back, he's pulled in another 5 backers overnight.

They are here for the knockout.

 

[hallamblue]

First he'd need to get rid of the dead wood,not an easy task. Think about it two fullbacks,two central defenders a new holding midfielder two strikers a fast direct winger all for just north of £125 million. You're expecting miracles.

O'Brien and Branthwaite central defenders, Armstrong holding midfielder so £125 million plus sales to get 2 fullbacks a fast direct winger and a striker. Not easy but not impossible

 

[Joey66]

Looks like Moyes is fighting back, he's pulled in another 5 backers overnight.

Let me know when he is sacked ....

 

[Bkk Andy]

It's a bit contradictory when he (allegedly) signed Dibling,Barry, Aznou and George (on loan)

He's barely used any of them and he's also stated the need for premier league experience.

 

[goldfinchmule]

Let me know when he is sacked ....

You will be harvesting your winter cabbage Joey.