davek
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She stinks of ciggies and piss.
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Ffs Dave, now I've finished.
davek
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lol
Hands up how many people actually listened to his interview?
Spadge Vernacular
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He's not in power mate. Once in, if the left don't sabotage things again, judge him on what he delivers. The alternative would be horrific for this country.
If you take the view that Starmer is looking to win in 12 months time, then one thing he cannot do is hand ammunition to the tories on the build up to an election, nor to their mass media/press. Corbyn, like it or not, has put Labour in a very difficult position with his relationship with Hamas. I'm sure I don't have to explain how the right wing media would react to a Labour being seen to continue to support a terrorist organisation who has just carried out the biggest terrorist atrocity since 9/11. Its an absolute mess but Corbyn has put Labour/Starmer in a difficult situation but for the sake of the UK his mind has 100% got to be fixed upon winning the next election. I'm sure most will understand this, hard as it might sound.
Spadge Vernacular
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As I say, if he beats the tories I'll judge what he does when in power. Sunak gets back in and the regression to Rabbs workhouses and the like become a step closer.
There was an interview?
He really needs to STFU, every single time he opens his trap he loses votes.
Its like hes trying to lose.
Martin Alvito
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A good political strategist thinks in terms of a pathway to a winning coalition. What happened in your politics is much the same as what happened in ours, over the last forty years. Trade union membership declined in both countries, with yours now landing where ours once was. Some of those working-class folk who were once solid union began voting on identity politics.
You might think 'ever the rebel' would appeal to the old-line Labour members of a similar age, but Corbyn's popularity was among young people. Think about where social politics were when he took the Islington seat in 1983, versus where they are today. In general, people do not become more socially liberal as they age. It happens, but the trend line runs in the other direction. This is why he did not appeal to that demographic.
If you look at the turnout breakdown by age, it's not hard to understand what happened. No one can win an election in the UK by turning out younger demographics whose turnout is 60% at best these days (and often lower) when older voters turn out at 70-80%. With the exception of Harold Wilson's win in 1964, Labour lost the election when young voters had elevated turnout rates, relative to other elections close by.
Your politics are not like ours in that regard. Old people show up at a very constant rate, and there's a great deal of variance in young voter turnout, so a Democratic candidate can win a presidential election by appealing to young voters. The last Democratic president before Biden to win his first presidential election at an age of sixty or above was Truman, but he had incumbency advantage. The one before that was James Buchanan prior to the Civil War.
It would take an enormous sea change for someone like Corbyn to have a shot in a Parliamentary election. Labour has to run center to center-left. It's the only way.
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Dharma
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You’d never survive.
But what a 30seconds it would be.
Safe Words - Vote Green.
IF the Greens have any Ginger Milfs they could certainly swing my vote.
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