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[Goat]

Anything and I mean anything is better than Rishi and his bunch of scumbags.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

They'll be a one term government, no question.

The level of vitriol for a 'Labour' Government that continues austerity will be off the charts and its 'brand' will be tarnished forever. No one will want to pick that party up after Starmer and his corporate-servicing minnions are chased out.

We'll need a socialist party backed by union cash to see off the coming challenge of the extreme right. It will come, as it has in the US.

Fair enough and maybe this a natural progression in forming an electable fully socialist minded Government. Until then I'm happy to use my vote in trying to achieve something at worst slightly more social and responsible rather than waste my vote and achieve nothing but more of the last 13 years.

 

[Goat]

Fair enough and maybe this a natural progression in forming an electable fully socialist minded Government. Until then I'm happy to use my vote in trying to achieve something at worst slightly more social and responsible rather than waste my vote and achieve nothing but more of the last 13 years.

He really thinks socialism is gonna be the winner in this ongoing culture war.

What an utter clown.

 

[davek]

Fair enough and maybe this a natural progression in forming an electable fully socialist minded Government. Until then I'm happy to use my vote in trying to achieve something at worst slightly more social and responsible rather than waste my vote and achieve nothing but more of the last 13 years.

Many of the people who at the end of the Miliband era in 2015 abstained from voting down Tory welfare cuts are back in charge. These are the people you're placing your faith in.

Those now in the current shadow cabinet who didn't vote against welfare cuts....



Bridget Phillipson

Chris Bryant

Hilary Benn

Liz Kendall

Lucy Powell

Peter Kyle

Yvette Cooper

Rachel Reeves

Jonathan Ashworth

Pat McFadden

Jonathan Reynolds

John Healey

Louise Haigh

Thangam Debboniare

Steve Reed

Lisa Nandy

Ian Murray

Emily Thornberry

Alan Campbell



By your friends shall ye be known.

 

[Goat]

Many of the people who at the end of the Miliband era in 2015 abstained from voting down Tory welfare cuts are back in charge. These are the people you're placing your faith in.

Those now in the current shadow cabinet who didn't vote against welfare cuts....



Bridget Phillipson

Chris Bryant

Hilary Benn

Liz Kendall

Lucy Powell

Peter Kyle

Yvette Cooper

Rachel Reeves

Jonathan Ashworth

Pat McFadden

Jonathan Reynolds

John Healey

Louise Haigh

Thangam Debboniare

Steve Reed

Lisa Nandy

Ian Murray

Emily Thornberry

Alan Campbell



By your friends shall ye be known.

Keep company with the wise and you will become wise. If you make friends with stupid people, you will be ruined.

 

[davek]

Keep company with the wise and you will become wise. If you make friends with stupid people, you will be ruined.

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[davek]

Many of the people who at the end of the Miliband era in 2015 abstained from voting down Tory welfare cuts are back in charge. These are the people you're placing your faith in.

Those now in the current shadow cabinet who didn't vote against welfare cuts....



Bridget Phillipson

Chris Bryant

Hilary Benn

Liz Kendall

Lucy Powell

Peter Kyle

Yvette Cooper

Rachel Reeves

Jonathan Ashworth

Pat McFadden

Jonathan Reynolds

John Healey

Louise Haigh

Thangam Debboniare

Steve Reed

Lisa Nandy

Ian Murray

Emily Thornberry

Alan Campbell



By your friends shall ye be known.

This is the guts of the Tory Welfare and Work Reform Bill 2015/16 that 19 of the 31 current 'Labour' Shadow Cabinet refused to oppose back in 2015:

It will repeal almost all of the Child Poverty Act 2010 and introduce a new duty for the Secretary of State to report annually on “life chances”: children living in workless households and educational attainment at age 16, in England. The name and remit of the Social Mobility and Child Poverty Commission is changed so that it becomes the Social Mobility Commission.

The Bill allows for the introduction of extensive changes to welfare benefits, tax credits and social housing rent levels. These will account for around 70% of the £12-13 billion in welfare savings identified in the Summer Budget 2015. The welfare/housing measures include:

• Lowering the benefit cap threshold and varying it between London and the rest of the UK.
• A four year benefits freeze.
• Limiting support through Child Tax Credits/Universal Credit.
• The abolition of Employment and Support Allowance Work-Related Activity Component.
• Changes to conditionality for responsible carers under Universal Credit.
• Replacing Support for Mortgage Interest with Loans for Mortgage Interest.
• Reducing social housing rent levels by 1% in each year for four years from 2016-17.

That's who you're voting for.

 

[Goat]

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Just wanted to highlight how cringe your little tag line is.

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak — Sun Tzu

 

[Goat]

This is the guts of the Tory Welfare and Work Reform Bill 2015/16 that 19 of the 31 current 'Labour' Shadow Cabinet refused to oppose back in 2015:

It will repeal almost all of the Child Poverty Act 2010 and introduce a new duty for the Secretary of State to report annually on “life chances”: children living in workless households and educational attainment at age 16, in England. The name and remit of the Social Mobility and Child Poverty Commission is changed so that it becomes the Social Mobility Commission.

The Bill allows for the introduction of extensive changes to welfare benefits, tax credits and social housing rent levels. These will account for around 70% of the £12-13 billion in welfare savings identified in the Summer Budget 2015. The welfare/housing measures include:

• Lowering the benefit cap threshold and varying it between London and the rest of the UK.
• A four year benefits freeze.
• Limiting support through Child Tax Credits/Universal Credit.
• The abolition of Employment and Support Allowance Work-Related Activity Component.
• Changes to conditionality for responsible carers under Universal Credit.
• Replacing Support for Mortgage Interest with Loans for Mortgage Interest.
• Reducing social housing rent levels by 1% in each year for four years from 2016-17.

That's who you're voting for.

This website doesn't have the bandwidth to list what we are voting against.

Just think back to how many were murdered in COVID times. Divide it by 13 years and that's what I'm voting for.

But you vote for a tree.

 

[davek]

Just wanted to highlight how cringe your little tag line is.

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak — Sun Tzu

God bless you!

 

[davek]

This website doesn't have the bandwidth to list what we are voting against.

Just think back to how many were murdered in COVID times. Divide it by 13 years and that's what I'm voting for.

But you vote for a tree.

Own these people.

Those 19 rats who voted to fold their arms while the Tories took money and services from the most vulnerable in our society are Starmer's front bench team.

If you expect them to be any better now then you need your head feeling.

 

[Goat]

Own these people.

Those 19 rats who voted to fold their arms while the Tories took money and services from the most vulnerable in our society are Starmer's front bench team.

If you expect them to be any better now then you need your head feeling.

Better, probably not, politicians are vermin, all of them.

Out of interest, how many Tories voted?

I bet it was more than 19.

Probably 10 times as many? I mean, yet again, you havent posted your source, just a load of names without anything to back it up, no context, nothing.

So how many Tories Dave? Give me the data so I can compare.

 

[COYBL25]

By your friends

Better, probably not, politicians are vermin, all of them.

Out of interest, how many Tories voted?

I bet it was more than 19.

Probably 10 times as many? I mean, yet again, you havent posted your source, just a load of names without anything to back it up, no context, nothing.

So how many Tories Dave? Give me the data so I can compare.

He’s busy at the moment trying to memorise the names of all two of the Green Party candidates.

 

[davek]

Better, probably not, politicians are vermin, all of them.

Out of interest, how many Tories voted?

I bet it was more than 19.

Probably 10 times as many? I mean, yet again, you havent posted your source, just a load of names without anything to back it up, no context, nothing.

So how many Tories Dave? Give me the data so I can compare.

The Tories voted for the Bill en masse; 145 Labour MPs (of whom 19 are part of the current Shadow Cabinet) voted to abstain and 48 Labour MPs rebelled against that abstention.

That stab in the back on ordinary people was the green light for Corbyn's successful leadership challenge.

The Starmer Shadow Cabinet - or at least two-thirds of it - are Red Tory's.

 

[Goat]

The Tories voted for the Bill en masse

No further questions.