The Everton Way?

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Sometimes see this mentioned when Moyes is suggested as the next manager. He 'gets' us. Etc etc. Was interesting to read John Nic on F365 talking about the various 'ways' that different clubs supposedly have:

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The United Way? Arsenal DNA? It's all nonsense... - Football365

Why not invent a new way to play instead of holding onto the past as a sucky blanket?
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Why should Everton still be ‘the school of science’ – a term which seems to be rooted in the late 1920s team. Whatever it means, why should a 2019 team be judged against it? But when Allardyce took over (there’s a theme here) he was criticised for not playing The Everton Way and for betraying the values of the School of Science, just as Marco Silva is now. “Everton fans want to see good football,” some pundit said, recently. But don’t all fans? That’s not uniquely a thing at Goodison. Everton also have A Dogs of War tradition. Why is that not their ‘way’? It seems a ‘way’ can’t be negative. It must always be a good thing. That’s the attraction of the DNA myth and probably explains its endurance.
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So is there an Everton way? Is there a club DNA that a new manager has to 'get', or is it all nonsense and a distraction from pursuing success?
 

The Everton Way for the past 20 years seems to be employ a manager who'll miraculously do enough to cover the board's shortcomings and hope that someone builds us a stadium.

We need to find the next Mourinho/Simone who'll drag the club up and rid us of the inferiority complex that fester's throughout. Because any plan by the board to grow the club incrementally isn't visible.
 

There has been a serious lack of "world class" players at Everton. Even the 1980s side lacked players that you could seriously say were internationally world-class (or considered so by other club supporters).
In my life time I would say:
Nev
Kanchelskis
Lineker
At a push - Trevor Steven
Rooney Mk I for the short time he was here.

Its a bit of an embarassment, when you look at other Premier League sides such as Spurs who have always seem to have world class players to enjoy eg Bale, Ginola, Sheringham, Berbatov, Kane, Klinsman ect ect.

When the going is good, the Everton has always been greater than its sum of parts. Kendall (1980s version) did this, Joe Royle did this for a season, and Moyes did this (his squads were grossly underfunded in comparison to where they finished). If you think of the Everton way, I would say teamwork, hardwork and a splattering of real quality but no overpaid prima donnas.

We have taken a wrong turn with the new money are we not buying players or finding managers to fit our system.
 
The Everton "way" from 1998 - 2016 was a club that was skint, coz local boy re-mortgaged his house to buy a club in debt, sold off the assets, and made the club one of the most unfashionable in an era when Football became fashionable. David Moyes suited Everton to the ground and vice verser, because he's the man to take knives to gunfights. The Dogs of war and all that.

But that time has gone. In a time of greed and billionaires, there is no time for football "ways". It's just win, win and win. And guickly or you'll be sacked.
 

This is all down to Kenwright for me, he wants us just to make the numbers up, we are so soft centered now it’s unbelievable.

Take yesterday’s game for example, halftime whistle goes Leicester had 4/5 players in the referees ear asking why the penalty was not given, you had that Perez fella diving over to try and fool the ref, on wed you will have that shower going over in the area at every opportunity.

We will get done over again because we are Everton
 
twoblue said:
There has been a serious lack of "world class" players at Everton. Even the 1980s side lacked players that you could seriously say were internationally world-class (or considered so by other club supporters).
In my life time I would say:
Nev
Kanchelskis
Lineker
At a push - Trevor Steven
Rooney Mk I for the short time he was here.

Its a bit of an embarassment, when you look at other Premier League sides such as Spurs who have always seem to have world class players to enjoy eg Bale, Ginola, Sheringham, Berbatov, Kane, Klinsman ect ect.

When the going is good, the Everton has always been greater than its sum of parts. Kendall (1980s version) did this, Joe Royle did this for a season, and Moyes did this (his squads were grossly underfunded in comparison to where they finished). If you think of the Everton way, I would say teamwork, hardwork and a splattering of real quality but no overpaid prima donnas.

We have taken a wrong turn with the new money are we not buying players or finding managers to fit our system.
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I mean I do broadly agree with this. But Pienaar at his peak was unreal. He didn't look out of place in a fantastic Ajax side and was brilliant for us first spell. Criminally underrated by a fanbase that venerates the likes of Davies.

Other than that, Digne last season was the best left back in the world. But it is thin pickings the last thirty years.
 
It's total nonsense.

Miguel Delaney in The Independent wrote a similar article the other day about us losing our "identity"

What's wrong at Everton is people, structure, and process.

I don't think there has ever been a club on earth where people sit down and work out what they are "for" or what their identity is.

In the very simplest terms, you try to win the next game, every game, and make as much turnover and profit as you can whilst doing so.

You might get away with a good footballing side existing under a poor business model but it won't last very long.
 
I've had this conversation before with my dad. The way we perceive the Everton way is totally different, his is based on good footballing sides of the 60s and mine is based on hardworking get it in the mixer teams of the mid 90s and under Moyes. Other than using the school of science as a soundbite, I don't think the vast majority of our fans now really associate good football as being the way Everton play. Even the 80s side wasn't a purist's dream, you'd have to be 60+ to think of us as 'the team that plays beautiful football'.

For that reason, I'm not sure that article really works for us. The dogs of war attitude isn't really viewed as a negative here, in fact most people would be very happy to see us snapping into tackles and intimidating teams. What Allardyce was criticised for was more a shouldering of arms, the complete opposite of the dogs of war attitude. The betrayal he talks of was a betrayal of the most basic principle of the game - trying to win.
 

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