The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[sheeds]

As Blues treck down to Southampton for tonight's match or make plans for the match on TV I wonder how many would swap Kenwright for the Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese (and whoever controls former owner Markus Liebherr's estate)? Sacking Adkins after two promotions and a reasonable recent turn of form?

I note in the Blue Union interview with Kenwright the start of that interview is full of questions as to why Bill didn't sell to the Venkys.

Would we swap for the city or Chelsea owners though ? We have this mate where people say it could be worse and yes it could but it could also be better . My worries are simple the wages are huge , the income appears to be sectioned off on various deals , the debt is rising , we lease a training ground , we've got some fairly dubious loans ....

This situation can't continue , I don't want to sell to the first bloke through the door although I do have problems squaring the idea that kenwright won't just sell to anyone with the bloke in a bedsit story. There are certainly worse out there but there is better , whether we sell or not stagnation doesn't seem to be much of a plan .

 

[Dell Boy]

Would we swap for the city or Chelsea owners though ? We have this mate where people say it could be worse and yes it could but it could also be better . .

The Chelsea takeover can be explained/justified on the London postcode. Russians own half of Kensington & Chelsea anyway.

That leaves Man City as the one lone example of a takeover/new money doing a stand out job set against maybe a dozen more dodgy ones. Look I'd love to see a new owner with a big bag of cash come into the club but hounding the present owner when there's bugger all in the wings strikes me as being a risky way forward that's all.

 

[njligernj]

The Chelsea takeover can be explained/justified on the London postcode. Russians own half of Kensington & Chelsea anyway.

I suppose but that seems like a convenient arbitrary rule to dismiss one of the success stories to make your argument stronger.

That leaves Man City as the one lone example of a takeover/new money doing a stand out job set against maybe a dozen more dodgy ones.

There are a lot of variables involved. I would certainly say there have been a couple of dodgy ones which resulted in serious problems for the club. However just because someone doesn't immediately win the league it doesn't make it a dodgy takeover. If an owner gives a club 200m to spend and the manager buys a bunch of utter crap does that mean the owners are dodgy? I suppose they might be naive in trusting that manager but they aren't necessarily dodgy owners who are going to destroy the club.

The Glazers might have been one of the dodgier takeovers on paper but they have a great manager so they've been doing well regardless. Does that make the Glazers good owners? Most Man U fans would say no. So if a manager can turn a dodgy takeover good he can also turn a good takeover bad.

I'd only classify it as dodgy if it has caused undeniable harm to the club. If they just haven't done that well then it just means there is more to it than just showing up with a bag of cash. That said, if Moyes had the money some of these clubs have spent in the last five years we'd be golden girls.

Look I'd love to see a new owner with a big bag of cash come into the club but hounding the present owner when there's bugger all in the wings strikes me as being a risky way forward that's all.

How is it risky? We've (in broad anti-BK terms) shown no ability to make a dent in his standing or even popularity (clap clap clap).

 

[steken1]

It surprises me how people who have been openly slating our board for being poor for years are suggesting that an interview which pointed out was somehow enlightening.
People who have constantly moaned about how we are skint are shocked to find out... that we are skint.
And that people who are constantly talking about Bill, his ego and his love of Bill are surprised and awed to find out that actually Bill has a big ego.. And these amazing discoveries came at the low cost of the group losing any chance of being taken seriously by the club.
It surprises me more that it seems that finding out these things that people already knew is deemed more important than potentially opening a line of communication between fans and the club, especially after many of these same people moaned that there were no lines of communication open between the fans and the club, and Bill and the BU had clearly set up the potential opportunity to do just that.
Its mentioned a page or two back that people got upset because the great leader was outed and that's why the BU was looked down upon.. that's just blx...
Things like publishing to everyone that we need to sell a player to clear some debt.. during a transfer window... is a decision that is potential directly detrimental to the club imo, this was far more worthy of my scorn than painting a bad picture of a board we all know to be rotten.
The BU if anything simply made the gap bigger between the board and the fans despite their best efforts, that interview was sadly their finest hour and the downfall of any hope for their objectives.
Having said that the board are doing their best to give the BU the incentive again so I wouldn't write them off just yet, hopefully though if they are planning on having a voice at the club they will take note of the mistakes of the past and not just jump on anything they can use to try to hang the board with, instead actually make themselves a part of the club and get into the position to offer some informative advice and guidance to board instead of trying to embarrass them. Perhaps become trustworthy enough to the board that they accept the view being put forwards by them isn't just their view but that of the fans and is in fact relevant, but they have to gain enough trust to be able to put forwards any view first and after the last meeting that's possibly never going to happen.

With regards to that meeting. It never had a chance of being a bridge between the board and the fans. The board asked for it to be confidential. He also threatened to end it more than once when a few awkward questions were raised.

Why you think fans should have to start internet campaigns and go on marches just for the pleasure of knowing if the institution they, and in many cases generation after generation of thier families, have supported through thick and thin will still be here in a few years is beyond me?

Surely a club on the brink would look to foster a decent relationship with it's core support?

 

[Elong]

As Blues treck down to Southampton for tonight's match or make plans for the match on TV I wonder how many would swap Kenwright for the Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese (and whoever controls former owner Markus Liebherr's estate)? Sacking Adkins after two promotions and a reasonable recent turn of form?

Honestly, what does this even mean??? What a random comparison, of no relevance.

Why not write "I wonder how many would swap Kenwright for the Man City chairman?" Constant spinning bull**** in this thread to suit their agenda is mind blowing.

 

[kenada_blue]

Clap Clap Clap

 

[Number_25]

Honestly, what does this even mean??? What a random comparison, of no relevance.

Why not write "I wonder how many would swap Kenwright for the Man City chairman?" Constant spinning bull**** in this thread to suit their agenda is mind blowing.

No mate.

Not the same.

 

[Elong]

No mate.

Not the same.

 

[Bluenose1995]

the prick needs to borrow of the summer revenue and give davey £10 mil to bring in a CM and striker

Moussa Sissoko is exactly what we need a strong quick CM who can pick a pass, contract runs out in the summer and barcodes are after him, £5 mil should get him, and would use the remaining cash + heitinga to bring in darren bent or Benteke from Villa with lescott on loan to replace johnny.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Lescott Baines

Sissoko Gibson

Mirallas Felliani Pienaar

Benteke

 

[toffee-fellaini]

BOSS BLUE IS OUR BILL, WE DONT WANT NO YANKS FTRS COYB ETID

 

[By god I'm blue]

Nothing ever changes in the board debates.

The club is stuck in a very unhealthy position of relying solely on TV revenues, yet the same people come on message boards claiming they are never defending them, but will never admit to their massive failings as a board.

It's so boring, yet, the facts remain.....

1. Not 1 member of the Everton board has ever invested anything into the development of Everton Football Club Ltd.
2. The clubs debts are at a record high, most assets have been sold off and there is no sign of any outside investment to take the club forward, despite Bill's alledged 10 years of trying.
3. The club have blocked any shareholders from having their say and keep a tight control of that.
4. They have lied or mis-led and manipulated the fans through the media on more than one occasion.
5. There will only be a concern from most fans if the team have a bad season and start to slip back to the positions they were in pre-Moyes years.
6. The only plus on Kenwright's CV as chairman of Everton was the appointment of Moyes.

Dress it up as you will, but they are just some of the major talking points.

I am sure some of you will agree that something is black and white, but not just the shade of black and white I think it is, so you will argue the toss anyway.

 

[Ihaters]

With regards to that meeting. It never had a chance of being a bridge between the board and the fans. The board asked for it to be confidential. He also threatened to end it more than once when a few awkward questions were raised.
They still asked some difficult questions regarding finances etc.. Just read the first question from Mark for example
“What is Bill Kenwright trying to do now to move the club forward, to sell the club, we hear all the time that you want to sell but what are you actually doing, nothing ever seems to materialise; why hasn’t the club been sold?â€￾

Why you think fans should have to start internet campaigns and go on marches just for the pleasure of knowing if the institution they, and in many cases generation after generation of thier families, have supported through thick and thin will still be here in a few years is beyond me?
I don't

Surely a club on the brink would look to foster a decent relationship with it's core support?
Agreed

However if the BU had a slightly longer perspective, particularly in light of Bills obvious delusionary state, its clear that abrasive tactics would end any further attempts to bridge the gap, however swallow a bit of pride for the sake of the club and adopting the friendly friendly approach would lead to a far more productive collaboration between the two and eventually the divide may be breached. BU would have a voice from the fans directly to the board and they could put forwards their plan of getting the club to allow the BU to replace them with board funded people the BU chose.
It was blatantly obvious that for the small information, most of which we all knew, they were clearly ending any hope of further communication.

 

[quasi modo]

It amazing that in a time of record TV deals and sponsor deals we are getting left behind.

No ambition from the current board.

 

[thebluefox]

It amazing that in a time of record TV deals and sponsor deals we are getting left behind.

No ambition from the current board.

theres major ambition from the board ,to fill there own pockets ,which they r doing week in week out

 

[quasi modo]

theres major ambition from the board ,to fill there own pockets ,which they r doing week in week out

Well without any major investment I can't see us lasting much longer, and the good times for them will be gone.