The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[USABlue]

Disappointed? Maybe a journalist isn't? Maybe this has piqued the curiosity of others? Would you have been happier if they were going to dangle Sly out by his feet?

Slowly, slowly, catchee Billy...

Wasn't disappointed as I didn't expect anything. It's just personal opinion that I don't think a banner will be effective in any meaningful way. Even if the national media picks up on it look at how they reacted with the everloan nonsense and the constant attempted selling of our players in the rags, doubt they're story will be positive towards our fans. I want us to be sold, just don't think banners or an article in the mirror will do anything to pressure the board as long as people fill up the ground every week

 

[BoysInBlue]

I thought better of you @BoysInBlue no need for that.

Care to elaborate @Dithering Dougie ?

Not really sure what I've posted that's so wrong there.

It's a guess based on Kenwright's previous tactics, given that the last time the heat was on (the morning of the well-advertised-ahead-of-time, infamous Blue Union march to the match in 2011), a big sympathetic interview with personal friend Martin Samuel appeared in the Daily Mail, in which Samuel said anyone who joined in the march that day were not real Evertonians.

It was exposed a long time ago that the club plot against the fans and manipulate the media for their own ends.

For the record I don't think Kenwright would use his illness in this way.

I do think there'd be a sympathetic story on him though, and that it might be mentioned along the way, and at which point the media will probably focus on that and make that the big story because that's how the media works.

 

[The Esk]

He hasn't yet granted and if he does keep it private my respect for him will grow. However, what I said was I wouldn't put it past him to say something about it in hopes of gaining sympathy, he's been doing similar stuff for years. "I rode to Goodison on my Uncle Cyril's handlebars, my shoes were peed on in the Boys' Pen, I've had wreathes and threats sent to my office." He loves a tear-jerker.

Mate, no need for this, let's think the best rather than the worst, and wish Bill (regardless of feelings) the best in respect of his health.

 

[chicoazul]

the cold hard fact of those figures is that none of our board have that kind of money to invest.

Then we must hope that someone who does wants to buy us, and more importantly those currently in charge want to sell AND are prepared to at a reasonable price which would facilitate a new owner/s to have sufficient value that they will invest in the short term as a priority.

Finding these people may be harder than many think but the selling price is key as it would attract interest if right.

 

[The Esk]

the cold hard fact of those figures is that none of our board have that kind of money to invest.

So we are down to option (ii) allow others to invest alongside or (iii) allow others to buy the club.

Which is it to be?

 

[BoysInBlue]

Paul you do know he's not a 60's Bond villain sitting on Hilbre Island with a cat and an nuclear weapon don't you..?

You don't appear to understand how the club (or any club, for that matter) attempts to control 'media stories' and how they're portrayed.

From asking/instructing the Liverpool Echo not to report on any Blue Union meetings to asking/instructing Radio City to blacklist certain fans from getting on the air during football phone ins. The club makes sure the local media tows the line. The national media not so much (i.e. the Talksport phone in the other night, and the Mirror being used to break the plane banner story, not the local press), although they're usually not arsed as they don't see us as a sexy story.

 

[EFCPaul]

Show some dignity for gods sake, the mans health has never and should never be a bargaining tool for anti board pressure groups.

No wonder there's no groundswell to back these people when this sort of tactic is used.

What are you talking about, how am I using his health as a bargaining tool? I clearly said I hope he gets better as quickly as possible and that he doesn't bring it up to try and gain sympathy in light of the public criticism he's been getting. My suspicion that he possibly might is born from spending years watching and listening to him speak and try to paint himself as a man who's whiter than white and many would agree with me on that, that Bill is not above telling his tales of woe to get people onside.

You've been making less sense in here than you normally do in the Howard thread.

 

[EFCPaul]

You're better swerving this.

What I meant has been twisted by some and painted into something I didn't mean. I'm just going to bed now, I don't have all night to stay up and talk about this. We'll all have to just see how this banner protest tomorrow goes and debate further from there.

 

[chicoazul]

What I meant has been twisted by some and painted into something I didn't mean. I'm just going to bed now, I don't have all night to stay up and talk about this. We'll all have to just see how this banner protest tomorrow goes and debate further from there.

I don't doubt your intention as you've tried to explain but it's in poor taste to bring up him trying to exploit an illness to deflect criticism. There's enough to chew over without the personal stuff, and illness is a very personal thing.

Anyway Im sounding like your dar, sorry, and night.

 

[uknightbreed]

ok .... option 2 .... allowing others to invest.

if I had £200 million .... would I invest it ? or just buy the club outright ?
I think if it was me , buying the club outright would be slightly less risky . atleast I'm in charge of my own investment so to speak.
so ive always been doubtful this will/can happen

when bill speaks about 'looking for investment' I always assume its a ' I want Tesco to build us a stadium and rent it too us over 100 years' kind of deal.

 

[navidson]

I voted indifferent, because I fear the alternative to Kenwright might be something like

 

[chicoazul]

ok .... option 2 .... allowing others to invest.

if I had £200 million .... would I invest it ? or just buy the club outright ?
I think if it was me , buying the club outright would be slightly less risky . atleast I'm in charge of my own investment so to speak.
so ive always been doubtful this will/can happen

when bill speaks about 'looking for investment' I always assume its a ' I want Tesco to build us a stadium and rent it too us over 100 years' kind of deal.

Ultimately if you chose that then you would either dilute the shares by buying some, and the current owners may not be keen on that (or issuing new shares as an alternative option) as it would reduce their stakehold, or if you did want to invest then you would want an amount back - which would need projections.

No one is going to throw money at us without wanting to make money back. The key is to find someone to truly invest in the club as they see the potential at the end of their investment and strategy for growth/increased profitability.

We're vying against every other Premier League club for that though. Mind you, just having someone who would actually invest would be a potential improvement.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I voted indifferent, because I fear the alternative to Kenwright might be something like

A one off extreme example. Alternatively imagine if this was our next owner:

 

[chicoazul]

I voted indifferent, because I fear the alternative to Kenwright might be something like

That's always a worry but ironically we'd be relying on those currently running the club to leave us in reputable hands.

Like everything in business there's always a gamble, many are worth taking.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I don't doubt your intention as you've tried to explain but it's in poor taste to bring up him trying to exploit an illness to deflect criticism. There's enough to chew over without the personal stuff, and illness is a very personal thing.

Anyway Im sounding like your dar, sorry, and night.

It's my fault, I'm to blame because I brought it up. @PaulieMc

It was a flippant remark that was in poor taste and I apologise to anyone offended, @Dithering Dougie

For the record I don't think Kenwright would do that. But I do think the idea that he'll want to 'change the story, quick' is valid, because the club won't like having a spotlight shone on how poor their business dealings are. That's how they operate, proven over the last 16 years, nipping things in the bud so many times.