The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[deipnosophist]

Pretty much a "steady as you are" set of accounts to be honest mate, nothing at all to get excited about really. More than anything else they demonstrate that without investment we can not develop the club, facilities or heavily invest in playing staff. In the absence of a takeover or fresh investment, we will remain indebted until the next huge increase in broadcasting revenues which start in season 2016/17.

The club is profitable at the operating level which should be welcomed but the commercial and sponsorship revenues are extremely poor compared to our competitors at the top end of the Premiership. Because of that we will continue to fall behind those clubs financially and allow the gap between ourselves and the likes of Stoke and Southampton to narrow further.

Whereas even 5 years ago we could point at a club that was progressively sinking, we at least are on an even keel now - only down to the increase in broadcasting revenues, nothing else. We need to be taken over to move forward regardless of our ability to out-perform (in relation to funds) on the pitch - it's as simple as that.

I have analysed the accounts...your post articulates, in succinct fashion, my precise same conclusions.

 

[royvernon39]

We need a vision and ambition off field to compete with all the previously mentioned clubs who are well into the process of achieving what for us still remain words on a football forum, let alone a strategy in a boardroom

You might say based on these accounts and the previous ones which have Mr. Kenright as the Chairman, that there is a strategy at the boardroom level. It is a simple strategy and may yet prove to be effective. Do nothing and invest nothing and wait for a buyer to come along.

Oh and for laughs from time to time you can invent stories about phantom buyers or a world class stadium.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Pretty much a "steady as you are" set of accounts to be honest mate, nothing at all to get excited about really. More than anything else they demonstrate that without investment we can not develop the club, facilities or heavily invest in playing staff. In the absence of a takeover or fresh investment, we will remain indebted until the next huge increase in broadcasting revenues which start in season 2016/17.

The club is profitable at the operating level which should be welcomed but the commercial and sponsorship revenues are extremely poor compared to our competitors at the top end of the Premiership. Because of that we will continue to fall behind those clubs financially and allow the gap between ourselves and the likes of Stoke and Southampton to narrow further.

Whereas even 5 years ago we could point at a club that was progressively sinking, we at least are on an even keel now - only down to the increase in broadcasting revenues, nothing else. We need to be taken over to move forward regardless of our ability to out-perform (in relation to funds) on the pitch - it's as simple as that.

Pretty much same old same old......

If I was a future investor in Everton FC, I would focus all my financial clout into a new stadium. I know a lot of people say that we need to spend on the pitch - players win you games, but im sure many are now beginning to understand that we need solid foundations to move forward. I think everybody (myself included) seen Abramovich and Mansour and thought that there were a few arabs out there willing to throw millions into clubs without a return, something that is highly unlikely.

It is possible to move forward without spending £50-100m each season on the pitch. Re-developing or moving stadium is key to this. Im hoping that the fans can all pull together in this direction rather than arguing over Liverpool spending more than us or palace getting cabaye means they are more attractive and such.

Stadium, commercial revenue, smart dealing in the transfer market and a bit of patience is required.

 

[joey_macmo]

Sadly some posters will never be happy with investors they want benefactors.

Until we get someone who's prepared to be a benevolent patron there'll always be a disenfranchised section of our support.

In my experience it's the total opposite of what you're implying. The people who actively want the current board out would be happy with an owner who could provide the capital and business plan to deliver a new stadium which would then allow us to increase revenues and all the obvious benefits that brings.

It's the people who back Kenwright etc who only want to see him leave for a Mansour type

 

[TheFinnFan]

Sadly some posters will never be happy with investors they want benefactors.

Until we get someone who's prepared to be a benevolent patron there'll always be a disenfranchised section of our support.

Exactly. And I think it would be mainly the same critics too.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

In my experience it's the total opposite of what you're implying. The people who actively want the current board out would be happy with an owner who could provide the capital and business plan to deliver a new stadium which would then allow us to increase revenues and all the obvious benefits that brings.

It's the people who back Kenwright etc who only want to see him leave for a Mansour type

That's a ridiculous generalisation.

You can not see Kenwright as the Devil incarnate, and still want a more progressive owner prepared (and able) to capitalise the business.

You're just further polarising the fanbase with nonsense like that mate.

 

[USABlue]

That's a ridiculous generalisation.

You can not see Kenwright as the Devil incarnate, and still want a more progressive owner prepared (and able) to capitalise the business.

You're just further polarising the fanbase with nonsense like that mate.

happens all the time on here unfortunately. look at all the martinez discussion the past year or so, either youre a "Martinez fanboy" or a "plotter", players are either "crap and always crap" or "world class". a ton of extremism on the forum (and internet in general really)

 

[joey_macmo]

That's a ridiculous generalisation.

You can not see Kenwright as the Devil incarnate, and still want a more progressive owner prepared (and able) to capitalise the business.

You're just further polarising the fanbase with nonsense like that mate.

I shouldn't have stated it as fact as it is my opinion but i do believe it to be correct.

Ive no idea where you've got the impression that i see Kenwright as the devil, I haven't even had a go at a single person and it is in fact you who is having a go at me.

 

[joey_macmo]

Sadly some posters will never be happy with investors they want benefactors.

Until we get someone who's prepared to be a benevolent patron there'll always be a disenfranchised section of our support.

Exactly. And I think it would be mainly the same critics too.

That's a ridiculous generalisation.

You can not see Kenwright as the Devil incarnate, and still want a more progressive owner prepared (and able) to capitalise the business.

You're just further polarising the fanbase with nonsense like that mate.

happens all the time on here unfortunately. look at all the martinez discussion the past year or so, either youre a "Martinez fanboy" or a "plotter", players are either "crap and always crap" or "world class". a ton of extremism on the forum (and internet in general really)

Any chance of you pulling up the original person who made the statement not the reply.

No of course not because you with that persons stance on the board.

Lets have some standards hey and deal with the actual substance instead of having a go at people

 

[USABlue]

Any chance of you pulling up the original person who made the statement not the reply.

No of course not because you with that persons stance on the board.

Lets have some standards hey and deal with the actual substance instead of having a go at people

I wasn't having a go at anybody? I'm just talking about how every discussion on the forum turns into labeling everyone into extremist camps (players, board, Martinez, etc)

 

[joey_macmo]

just to illustrate my point it took me 30 seconds to find a perfect example in this thread never mind the previous ones.

We could get man city type buy out and that would be fantastic

Changing the board unless they are Billionaires will not make any difference.

Not necessarily. A different ownership might actually look for investment to progress the club

first two are by pro kenwright posters, 3rd is a reply

 

[Dithering Dougie]

In my experience it's the total opposite of what you're implying. The people who actively want the current board out would be happy with an owner who could provide the capital and business plan to deliver a new stadium which would then allow us to increase revenues and all the obvious benefits that brings.

It's the people who back Kenwright etc who only want to see him leave for a Mansour type

So if these plans for WHP come to fruition you'll be happy for Kenwright to stay and carry on?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Any chance of you pulling up the original person who made the statement not the reply.

No of course not because you with that persons stance on the board.

Lets have some standards hey and deal with the actual substance instead of having a go at people

The post I quoted was yours, your words, your statement.

It was a nonsense generalisation.

You've just tried to justify it by finding 2 posts from 2 people as well, laughable, just admit it was cods and move on mate.

 

[joey_macmo]

So if these plans for WHP come to fruition you'll be happy for Kenwright to stay and carry on?

It would begin to repair the damage however I would be incredibly concerned that it was just another DK and all the lies the club told to the fans to progress the move. Their is a natural air of suspicion there now which may never go away.

 

[joey_macmo]

The post I quoted was yours, your words, your statement.

It was a nonsense generalisation.

You've just tried to justify it by finding 2 posts from 2 people as well, laughable, just admit it was cods and move on mate.

Show me where i said Kenwright was the devil after all that "was yours, your words, your statement."

Also as ive said any chance of pulling up the original nonsense generalisation and not the reply? no of course not.

Fair enough if you want to argue about the substance of the post but don't have a go at things you're letting other people get away with purely because you agree with them re the board