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The very fact that we didn't hoof it when we should of gave Liverpool possession in our own half.
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Xavi
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A lot of criticism aimed at him is fair do'z but what people fail to mention is what good manager will want to come and work for
Bill Kenwright, if we sacked Moyes I wouldn't bet against us becoming a relegation fighting team in the next 2 years with a Paul Lambert or a Dave Jones, 2 managers who've never done a better job than Moyes in any football season where ever they've been, and that's just to name 2 we're capable of attracting, because guess what no top European coach will be coming here in a rush
Bill Kenwright, if we sacked Moyes I wouldn't bet against us becoming a relegation fighting team in the next 2 years with a Paul Lambert or a Dave Jones, 2 managers who've never done a better job than Moyes in any football season where ever they've been, and that's just to name 2 we're capable of attracting, because guess what no top European coach will be coming here in a rush
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
can see your point mate, but we have the core of a good squad and a good future. I dont believe lambert has spent too much and has won two successive promotions and will gain norwich a very good finishing position in the prem considering a very average squad he has to work with. Hes managed to pick up players from the lower leagues ala morrison and turned them to very good performers, and when they have failed to perform hes dropped them, like he did for holt. We havent seen that with moyes regarding cahill/saha etc when they havent been performing, vellios would have had much more opportunities if lambert were in charge. Never forget moyes and how he saved us, but he really has taken us as far as he can, just hope that at the end of the season he realizes that and wants a new challenge, its best for all concerned IMO
good piont there mate,but the sad fact is when it matters moyes cant get a result its not a one off he has had ten years to sort it out, semi defeats and final defeat not good enough and a record agaist the top teams(thats joke,we were one once)that is quite frankly shameful,alright he has done a good job on a shoestring, but if you want to win anything we need to look elsewere
ART
Player Valuation: £8m
I hope he is at another club 10years of him is enough and we won SFA: Time for change
faddy the blue
Player Valuation: £35m
We, the everton fans haven't seen us win anything since 1995 and bad luck with injuries meant that we missed out in 2009 but what has happened after that is Moyes' fault in the last 3 years.
He had 25M of Lescott cash which he spent on 2 defenders and on one midfielder who flopped. That was the last time he spent anything until this January and then he complains that he has no strikers? He has squeezed out the attacking mentality and has filled the brains with defending.
He has since then made continuous excuses about lack of cash before almost every game so that if we lose, there won't be any problem when in fairness, the players he has got are much more capable then he thinks they are.
The biggest problem is that we don't win trophies or premier league classic matches, we win by 4 goals once a year so the only thing we look forward to is the derby and this guy has led us to just 4 wins in 15 games I guess. He played a side at anfield that was so weak and thought he should have weakened the side a bit more. Then he had a chance to redeem himself in the semi final and he had no plan B to change the game and all his stupid tactics failed cos his changes were made too late.
Sooner or later, he's gonna ruin Jelavic as well and if you don't believe me, then look at all the strikers he has worked with and how long have they lasted until his style of play ruins them and they leave or are sold.
He had 25M of Lescott cash which he spent on 2 defenders and on one midfielder who flopped. That was the last time he spent anything until this January and then he complains that he has no strikers? He has squeezed out the attacking mentality and has filled the brains with defending.
He has since then made continuous excuses about lack of cash before almost every game so that if we lose, there won't be any problem when in fairness, the players he has got are much more capable then he thinks they are.
The biggest problem is that we don't win trophies or premier league classic matches, we win by 4 goals once a year so the only thing we look forward to is the derby and this guy has led us to just 4 wins in 15 games I guess. He played a side at anfield that was so weak and thought he should have weakened the side a bit more. Then he had a chance to redeem himself in the semi final and he had no plan B to change the game and all his stupid tactics failed cos his changes were made too late.
Sooner or later, he's gonna ruin Jelavic as well and if you don't believe me, then look at all the strikers he has worked with and how long have they lasted until his style of play ruins them and they leave or are sold.
Jimmy1
Player Valuation: £1.5m
When you talk to supporters of other teams everyone I have spoken to is in agreement that Fellaini is immense. Yeah he was crap on Saturday but he is our only player we could get 20+ million for easy. If he was playing in a team surrounded by players equally as comfortable on the ball then you'd be talking about one of the best defensive midfielders in the league.
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Cookachoo
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Its stick or twist from our perspective. I think with Moyes in charge, we'll never be in danger of relegation, and we'll always be top half-midtable. He has his imperfections as a manager, many of which we've discussed, but stability is not one of his failings i'll grant him that. He doesn't suffer fools, he manages a productive 'team' atmosphere and he has a knack of getting consistency out of players. He's not a risk-taker and this club will never be in masses of trouble as we've seen elsewhere, because of that.
But then do you achieve ambition without risk, whether it is financial or tactical?
By the same token, I don't feel we'll ever win silverware or challenge the top 4/6 with Moyes for that reason. And that has as much to do with our prominent financial predicament as it has to do with Moyes tactical ineptness, naivety and failure to proactively change things when we all so desperately need him to. 2009 aside, we've been pish in the cups, and we lack the strength in depth to compete in Europe if we even managed to qualify for it.
With a new mindset, a fresh approach from a different manager, we could push on as a team, break into the top 6 and get the regular European money that would see us grow. Moyes is no 'one in a million'. He's done a sterling job but we have identified 5 or 6 managers in England alone, in this very thread, that have displayed similar achievements working to a budget. The flipside is that the loss of that stability could also upset the applecart and prompt a decline.
Stick or twist?. Knee-jerks aside, i'm leaning more toward twist.
But then do you achieve ambition without risk, whether it is financial or tactical?
By the same token, I don't feel we'll ever win silverware or challenge the top 4/6 with Moyes for that reason. And that has as much to do with our prominent financial predicament as it has to do with Moyes tactical ineptness, naivety and failure to proactively change things when we all so desperately need him to. 2009 aside, we've been pish in the cups, and we lack the strength in depth to compete in Europe if we even managed to qualify for it.
With a new mindset, a fresh approach from a different manager, we could push on as a team, break into the top 6 and get the regular European money that would see us grow. Moyes is no 'one in a million'. He's done a sterling job but we have identified 5 or 6 managers in England alone, in this very thread, that have displayed similar achievements working to a budget. The flipside is that the loss of that stability could also upset the applecart and prompt a decline.
Stick or twist?. Knee-jerks aside, i'm leaning more toward twist.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
hes never beaten man utd, arsenal, liverpool or chelsea away in 10 years as well as the no trophy thing, i can only think of the time rosicky scored in the final minute at the emirates where we genuinly came close. I would love to see an everton team that goes out and tries to win every single game, not try and nick a point every time. We have still lost games 6-1, 7-1 etc. even with his defensive mind aswell it must be noted
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