The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[magicjuan]

Oh go away will Yer? You're the forum wasp. Just stick me on ignore of you don't like what you see, there's no point having another argument across another thread.

I would have thought WASP applied more to you than me.

Go burn another cross you daft melt, it's a forum.

 

[EFCNIK]

I tell you what might ive disagreed with a lot of what you say , on one occasion however supporting a point of yours you my surprise but that is one horrific and vile suggestion .

Do you actually believe that ?

Political correctness and fear of being deemed racist almost certainly played a part but your suggestion is way beyond that fella.

No other members of any other community would have got away with that for that long on that scale so brazenly and the unwillingness to address what was going on was certainly for political benefit.

 

[Groucho]

Either way, are we not confusing local and national matters here?

That could've happened under any local council of any party, surely.

Can we stop bating eachother and discuss properly please?

 

[Blue 1]

No other members of any other community would have got away with that for that long on that scale so brazenly and the unwillingness to address what was going on was certainly for political benefit.

The likes of Cyril Smith and Jimmy Savile got away with it for much longer to be fair, and for pretty much the same reasons you claim.

 

[L4Everton]

That could've happened under any local council of any party, surely.

Can we stop bating eachother and discuss properly please?

I feel part of the issue is that it did occur under at least a couple of councils. Institutionalised fear and career pandering no-marks failed those victims - I very much hope they all get legal representation and bring a case against local government en masse and financially rip the backs out of each.

 

[mrs the esk]

Labour don't represent people like me, they never have. What have Labour historically stood for?

Wow!

Labour Party achievements since 1945:

The creation of the Welfare State - old age pensions, sickness benefits, unemployment benefit
The creation of the National Health Service
Free education for all
The decriminalisation of homosexuality and abortion
Fairer divorce laws
Abolition of capital punishment
Fairer employment laws
The minimum wage
The Human Rights Act
The Civil Partnership Act

If you are old, sick or poor there's not a single service provided by Government to help you that was not originally introduced by the Labour Party.

How can you claim they have never represented ordinary people?

 

[EFCNIK]

The likes of Cyril Smith and Jimmy Savile got away with it for much longer to be fair, and for pretty much the same reasons you claim.

For completely different reasons. Equally as shocking.

 

[EFCNIK]

I feel part of the issue is that it did occur under at least a couple of councils. Institutionalised fear and career pandering no-marks failed those victims - I very much hope they all get legal representation and bring a case against local government en masse and financially rip the backs out of each.

I'd like to see a donation from the islamic council of Britain towards this.

Lol! Yeah right.

 

[Blue 1]

unwillingness to address what was going on was certainly for political benefit.

So this wasn't the case with Cyril Smith? Really? And Savile's closeness to the the halls of power wasn't a factor in him getting away with it for so long?

 

[edge]

Either way, are we not confusing local and national matters here?

That could've happened under any local council of any party, surely.

Can we stop bating eachother and discuss properly please?

its was going quite well for a while .
stick to debating the merits or not of the parties , lads it gets a bore going over race issues again and again,

 

[EFCNIK]

So this wasn't the case with Cyril Smith? Really? And Savile's closeness to the the halls of power wasn't a factor in him getting away with it for so long?

Oh maybe yeah. I thought you were talking about the political correctness side of it and the constant unwillingness to address any issues in that specific community. The mindset is demonstrated time after time on this very forum I must say x

 

[L4Everton]

I'd like to see a donation from the islamic council of Britain towards this.

Lol! Yeah right.

Your arguement falls down before it starts, it wasn't just Muslims mate. There were white guys(criminal Scum!) in the mix involved with those predominantly Pakistani offenders (crim scum as well). It does appear you are on your anti everything Muslim soap box yet again and will use any excuse to further your non starter tirades. Some of the things you come up with are at times utterly frightening. You do not become bad to defeat bad.

 

[davek]

You mean apart from the right wing government bit?

,,,and that makes me saying Sweden is right wing how?

 

[JDL]

That's quite poor even for you

But he isn't wrong in saying that

Your arguement falls down before it starts, it wasn't just Muslims mate. There were white guys(criminal Scum!) in the mix involved with those predominantly Pakistani offenders (crim scum as well). It does appear you are on your anti everything Muslim soap box yet again and will use any excuse to further your non starter tirades. Some of the things you come up with are at times utterly frightening. You do not become bad to defeat bad.

Its well known to be an overwhelmingly Pakistani problem.

 

[EFCNIK]

But he isn't wrong in saying that

Its well known to be an overwhelmingly Pakistani problem.

That's the thing. It IS well known. And these people will still swear blue was pink.

Any time a majority of a specific type of crime is committed by a minority in society, there of course is a problem to be addressed. Isn't it something ridiculous like close to 90% of gang related child abuse is committed by members of a community making up 5% of the population? It's something stupid like that.

It's the way they are brought up, male domination and non Muslims are worthless and easy pray. It's their right to do what they do.