Team vs Krasnodar

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I would play the reserve team. A narrow win or even a draw is alright as we are playing away in Russia.

Robles

Browning Alcaraz Distin Oviedo

Gibson Besic

McGeady Osman Atsu

Eto'o

Subs: Hibbert, Kone, Garbutt, Galloway, McAleny, Stanek, Long.

Injured: Mirallas, Barkley, Pienaar, Coleman.

I'd probably go with this team. Try to give Kone 30 mins too
 
Robles
Hibbert Distin Alcaraz Oviedo
Gibson Besic
McGeady Naismith Atsu
Eto'o
That team should still be strong enough to get something from the game, the United match is more important.
 

Robles
Hibbert Distin Alcaraz Oviedo
Gibson Besic
McGeady Naismith Atsu
Eto'o
That team should still be strong enough to get something from the game, the United match is more important.

So are we assuming they're worse than Swansea, or that the same team will play tons better?
 
End of the day we finish mid table in the league and you can kiss goodbye to rom, ross and coleman etc. Sadly we need to maintain a top 7 at worst finish preferably top 6. We can't afford to go 5 points behind Utd and possibly spurs, RS etc. By having a jet lagged side face the likes of Di Maria, Falcao, RVP etc.

Even if we lose Krasnador we will snot them at goodison as we will lille and theirs good chances we can get 3 points at both the remaining away games. The likes of wolfsburg and lille will also drop points away at russia make no mistake about that this is the match we can afford to drop points in
 

End of the day we finish mid table in the league and you can kiss goodbye to rom, ross and coleman etc. Sadly we need to maintain a top 7 at worst finish preferably top 6. We can't afford to go 5 points behind Utd and possibly spurs, RS etc. By having a jet lagged side face the likes of Di Maria, Falcao, RVP etc.

Even if we lose Krasnador we will snot them at goodison as we will lille and theirs good chances we can get 3 points at both the remaining away games. The likes of wolfsburg and lille will also drop points away at russia make no mistake about that this is the match we can afford to drop points in

Nope.

Coleman has made it clear he is extremely happy and grateful to be playing for us. Lukaku has just signed, there's zero chance he'd leave after one year and zero chance anybody would pay what we would want for him. And Ross ? Finishing mid table or finishing 5th will be irrelevant, he's going to be subject to a massive bid at some point and we'll almost certainly take the money.
 
Nope.

Coleman has made it clear he is extremely happy and grateful to be playing for us. Lukaku has just signed, there's zero chance he'd leave after one year and zero chance anybody would pay what we would want for him. And Ross ? Finishing mid table or finishing 5th will be irrelevant, he's going to be subject to a massive bid at some point and we'll almost certainly take the money.

Gonna have to agree to disagree. Sadly league form means more than trophies for most teams it's why arsenal go all guns blazing for 4th over a trophy if it came down to it as it's vital for attracting the better players.

We finish 6th and get europa league for example, we would have more chance of attracting players than you would for getting to the europa semis and going out to a roma or sevilla etc. Lukaku would never have came if we never got European football martinez said that himself European football is vital to us.

Krasnador away is a write off people wetting their pants thinking a loss there means we're out are deluded. We do lille and Krasnador at home and get atleast a point at Lille and wolfsburg away we are easily through, and that's not even factoring in the other sides taking points off each other like lille and Krasnador drawing for example.

We have too much firepower to not qualify will be us and one of wolfsburg or Krasnador.
 
Gonna have to agree to disagree. Sadly league form means more than trophies for most teams it's why arsenal go all guns blazing for 4th over a trophy if it came down to it as it's vital for attracting the better players.

We finish 6th and get europa league for example, we would have more chance of attracting players than you would for getting to the europa semis and going out to a roma or sevilla etc. Lukaku would never have came if we never got European football martinez said that himself European football is vital to us.

Krasnador away is a write off people wetting their pants thinking a loss there means we're out are deluded. We do lille and Krasnador at home and get atleast a point at Lille and wolfsburg away we are easily through, and that's not even factoring in the other sides taking points off each other like lille and Krasnador drawing for example.

We have too much firepower to not qualify will be us and one of wolfsburg or Krasnador.

Silly comparison. Getting 4th and the chance to play in the Champions League is a million miles away from finishing 6th or 5th.

This whole 'beat Lille and Krasnodar at home and we're easily through' is a daft mentality. If it weren't for Howard in that Wolfsburg game we could have easily drawn that match. Lille are currently 3rd in their league, ahead of both PSG and Monaco. Hardly pushovers.

You go into every match in Europe and try to get all three points. End of.
 
Silly comparison. Getting 4th and the chance to play in the Champions League is a million miles away from finishing 6th or 5th.

This whole 'beat Lille and Krasnodar at home and we're easily through' is a daft mentality. If it weren't for Howard in that Wolfsburg game we could have easily drawn that match. Lille are currently 3rd in their league, ahead of both PSG and Monaco. Hardly pushovers.

You go into every match in Europe and try to get all three points. End of.

Disagree and it would be the same people whinging if the likes of lukaku and Naismith put in sub standard performances against utd Sunday if we play them Thursday. It's a squad game and we have to use the squad, Utd beat us and Southampton win for example they go 10 points ahead of us, the difference between finishing say 5th and 9th is a good few million which for a club like ourselves can be the difference between making a signing or not.

In the group stages league form has to come first especially when your talking about a 2000 mile or so journey to an area of Russia before a vital match against a top 4 rival just 3 days later.
 
End of the day we finish mid table in the league and you can kiss goodbye to rom, ross and coleman etc. Sadly we need to maintain a top 7 at worst finish preferably top 6. We can't afford to go 5 points behind Utd and possibly spurs, RS etc. By having a jet lagged side face the likes of Di Maria, Falcao, RVP etc.

Even if we lose Krasnador we will snot them at goodison as we will lille and theirs good chances we can get 3 points at both the remaining away games. The likes of wolfsburg and lille will also drop points away at russia make no mistake about that this is the match we can afford to drop points in

dear me lad, our squad should be capable of beating them anyway. We're not losing coleman, barkley or rom anytime soon unless we finish 12th or lower - which we won't. People need to stop being so negative about losing our players. We don't need to sell, and they're all happy here. Unless someone comes and bids 40/50 mil, they'll be here. Whats the point in travelling to Russia if we're not prepared to go and win the game? I personally would make a few changes, but keep some first teasers on the bench. Eto'o isn't exactly a bad option to have as a second choice forward
 

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