Sylvain Distin

[Ihaters]

Distin has been majestic at times for us in the past, its easy to remember a handful of mistakes over the years, but to dismiss our former player of the year's contribution to our defences of the past as some are is an epic rewriting of his time here.
This season he has been awful, not much to choose between him and Alkaraz imo, but previously him and Jags have been as solid a defence as you could hope to have.
If we had a DM of worth when Distin was in his prime, we'd probably of had the best defence in the country. as it was we were often exposed and Distin dragged us out the brown stuff repeatedly through his pace and experience.

Great player, sad to see him go the way he has, and when he does go, i'll of been happy to of had him, until then... needs to play very rarely as his decline has been really dramatic.

 

[maccavennie]

Distin has been majestic at times for us in the past, its easy to remember a handful of mistakes over the years, but to dismiss our former player of the year's contribution to our defences of the past as some are is an epic rewriting of his time here.
This season he has been awful, not much to choose between him and Alkaraz imo, but previously him and Jags have been as solid a defence as you could hope to have.
If we had a DM of worth when Distin was in his prime, we'd probably of had the best defence in the country. as it was we were often exposed and Distin dragged us out the brown stuff repeatedly through his pace and experience.

Great player, sad to see him go the way he has, and when he does go, i'll of been happy to of had him, until then... needs to play very rarely as his decline has been really dramatic.

Totally agree with all that mate. Been a great signing for us but form has dipped alarmingly this season and it was inevitable he had to be dropped.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

people pure overrating distin here like.

He wasn't one of the best cb's at all a few years ago. He was good but no where near one of the best.

 

[Tony1985]

people pure overrating distin here like.

He wasn't one of the best cb's at all a few years ago. He was good but no where near one of the best.

Few Defensive stats from the past 5 seasons:
2014-2015: everton 11th in the defensive league - 48 conceded, 10 clean sheets, Distin 12 apps (season not finished yet)

2013-2014: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 39 conceded, 15 clean sheets, Distin 33 apps

2012-2013: everton 4th in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 11 clean sheets, Distin 34 apps

2011-2012: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 12 clean sheets, Distin 29 apps

2010-2011: everton 7th in the defensive league, 45 conceded, 9 clean sheets, disin 35 apps

It quite clearly shows we were a better defensive unit with Distin in the team. I'm not saying it was solely down to him but considering all the teams around us spent a lot more money i would say Distin was a lot better than good.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Few Defensive stats from the past 5 seasons:
2014-2015: everton 11th in the defensive league - 48 conceded, 10 clean sheets, Distin 12 apps (season not finished yet)

2013-2014: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 39 conceded, 15 clean sheets, Distin 33 apps

2012-2013: everton 4th in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 11 clean sheets, Distin 34 apps

2011-2012: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 12 clean sheets, Distin 29 apps

2010-2011: everton 7th in the defensive league, 45 conceded, 9 clean sheets, disin 35 apps

It quite clearly shows we were a better defensive unit with Distin in the team. I'm not saying it was solely down to him but considering all the teams around us spent a lot more money i would say Distin was a lot better than good.

He was excellent when he could keep up his pace. He's had a few injuries and his years are catching up and his pace is very much lacking, so it's normal to drop him.

His game overall was mainly about the pace and strength - he didn't have the supposed football intelligence that Jagielka has, but he could fix every mistake he could make by being strong and pacy. In saying that, he's obviously not "the best", but he was a fantastic defender on his day, and a few seasons ago, as those stats show, his day was very often.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Few Defensive stats from the past 5 seasons:
2014-2015: everton 11th in the defensive league - 48 conceded, 10 clean sheets, Distin 12 apps (season not finished yet)

2013-2014: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 39 conceded, 15 clean sheets, Distin 33 apps

2012-2013: everton 4th in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 11 clean sheets, Distin 34 apps

2011-2012: everton 3rd in the defensive league - 40 conceded, 12 clean sheets, Distin 29 apps

2010-2011: everton 7th in the defensive league, 45 conceded, 9 clean sheets, disin 35 apps

It quite clearly shows we were a better defensive unit with Distin in the team. I'm not saying it was solely down to him but considering all the teams around us spent a lot more money i would say Distin was a lot better than good.

lescott was about ten times the player, mate.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Distin's decline is/was inevitable. But two points that really jarr with RMs actions are;

1. Blocking his move to West Ham because he is still valuable and supposedly part of our plans.

2. It's one thing to fall behind the Jags/Stones pairing but to not make the bench ahead of Alcaraz??

But did Martinez block his move?

From what I recall of reports at the time West Ham and Distin couldn't agree terms, not that Martinez blocked them talking. And from what I saw from Distin's translated interivew he didn't appear to explicity claim he did, just that he reneged on a statement that he was still useful to the team - all seems a bit ambiguous as to how the deal fell through.

You haven’t appeared in an Everton shirt since the Cup game (1-1) against West Ham on January 6. What‘s going on?
On February 2, I went to see the manager (Roberto Martinez) about the offer from West Ham, who had offered me a transfer until the end of the season. The next day, during a press conference, he said that he was counting on me and that I would be a part of the team. But since then I haven’t been picked once.
Has he given you an explanation?
No, I haven’t got a clue why. Ask him. We haven’t talked any more since then. There are plenty of things that go down in football and you hope that at least there will be a minimum amount of respect. But anyway, I’ve been playing at a high level for 20 years and I’m enjoying weekends with the family. I’m keeping my spirits up.

Perhaps as another poster earlier in the thread suggested, West Ham only wanted to pay part of Distin's wages and Distin wanted the club to make up the rest. Unless he changed his mind, why would Martinez allow the talks to start in the first place if he'd decided Distin was needed for backup. Which btw is a reasonable enough position given we were still in 3 competitions at the time with Stones was just recovering, Jags had bad hamstring troubles the previous year and Alcaraz has had his own issues.

We'll probably find out the whole truth at some point but sadly doubt it will reflect well on either Martinez or Dsitin. For a start two grown men not talking for several months is quite pathetic.

 

[Ashtonian]

Disitn was a fantastic player for the club since he was signed. We can analyse him all day long here but the fact is this

The guy is 37 now!

Fairs fair no-one saw such a drop in performance but having him as first choice it was always going to happen. The clubs fault for not replacing him given the chance and hoping for one more season. But still, he has been great for us over the course of his time here and i will fondly remember him for being a great partner for Jags.

 

[MartSlinger]

He's never been close to the player Lescott was, and he's never gotten close to Jagielka either.

 

[Jags..class]

He mistake at Wembley against the rs was patheic

 

[Moomin]

I'm starting an online petition for a bronze statue of Distin made by the club to honour him.

It will be glorious and his physique needs to be remembered, he will be naked of course but it will be a thing of beauty. We can touch his penis for good luck.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

lescott was about ten times the player, mate.

Nobody is comparing the two to a degree, were saying that to replace a £28m centre half of lescotts quality with a 30 year old distin was a great peice of business in hindsight. Just to clarify that sylvain was one of the best centre halfs in the league, him and jags have served us well in recent years.

 

[Walken]

But did Martinez block his move?

From what I recall of reports at the time West Ham and Distin couldn't agree terms, not that Martinez blocked them talking. And from what I saw from Distin's translated interivew he didn't appear to explicity claim he did, just that he reneged on a statement that he was still useful to the team - all seems a bit ambiguous as to how the deal fell through.


Perhaps as another poster earlier in the thread suggested, West Ham only wanted to pay part of Distin's wages and Distin wanted the club to make up the rest. Unless he changed his mind, why would Martinez allow the talks to start in the first place if he'd decided Distin was needed for backup. Which btw is a reasonable enough position given we were still in 3 competitions at the time with Stones was just recovering, Jags had bad hamstring troubles the previous year and Alcaraz has had his own issues.

We'll probably find out the whole truth at some point but sadly doubt it will reflect well on either Martinez or Dsitin. For a start two grown men not talking for several months is quite pathetic.

Martinez consistently says one thing then does another in fairness, god knows what he is actually thinking

 

[LinekersLegs]

Martinez consistently says one thing then does another in fairness, god knows what he is actually thinking

Agree Martinex public statements flip flop around.

But doubt he blocked Distin's move because he was undecided about needing him for backup. Heitinga was allowed to leave for Fulham a couple of days after the disastrous Anfield game in which Distin had been too injured to play and a clearly unfit Jags/Alcazar were at CB. Stones was at RB because Coleman was also out and Hibbert's fitness was unreliable.

That is a lot worse CB situation than we were in when Distin was potentially moving yet Heitinga still left. Martinez also let (even forced) out Eto'o with little backup for Lukaku.

 

[stamullenblue]

I'm intrigued by this too. Don't recall ever hearing anything about a confrontation or scuffle.

£20 says that "offering out" will turn out to be "wrote something scathing on twitter".

Palace away last year was start of it. Had a right pop at fans right where I was sitting ... Seemed to have attitude that nobody should criticise poor performances - good servant but only himself to blame now and his 'reveal all talk ' only more of it