Swearing Warnings?

[duncs pigeon]

Someone I trust had a meeting with the club, where the yellow cards were raised. IF generalised swearing was an issue, he would have warned us with something like 'be careful as they are cracking down on this'.

I was in said meeting, swearing not the issue.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[davek]

I was in said meeting, swearing not the issue.

Can you elaborate a bit more?

Again though, it doesn't really matter what they say is the issue, because the real thing they want stamped out is general 'rowdyism'.

 

[Rita_Poon]

rowdiness*.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Too much inuedo about what the actual reason for the cards is over the last couple of pages.
Anyone have first or second hand info on the nature of the language being used?

There’s a couple of pretty obvious reaches in the absence of decent info and it would be seriously disappointing if that were case given the sheer number of cards being put out.

Are they just putting them out in blocks where it’s reported or are they narrowed down to within a seat or two (if not specific seats)

 

[The binman chronicles]

Would you say that incidences of this type are way more than at Goodison? It appears they are by some distance.

That tells me there's a different approach at this stadium and it means that the stadium management company employed have been handed a different criteria to deploy in it (or that they're being heavy handed in deploying existing measures in play to keep order).

The question then becomes a matter of judgement on what foul and discriminatory language is and what the proportion is between each.

We'll end up with a sanitised 'event' every week at this rate.

And if we're ever bumping along the bottom again that could prove to be disastrous.

Besides that though there's human engineering going on here at this stadium every week and the stadium management company that's been hired are the sharp end of it.

Think due to the angle of the stands, it's easier to pinpoint who is saying stuff. In the lower GS it would be very difficult to know exactly who said what, if they weren't directly a few seats around. Perhaps that is one difference.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Politely, that’s bollox.

Please share the insight why you think that way? If you have evidence that goes beyond what I have had passed on to me and @duncs pigeon has seen first hand then it would be good to know.

 

[davek]

Think due to the angle of the stands, it's easier to pinpoint who is saying stuff. In the lower GS it would be very difficult to know exactly who said what, if they weren't directly a few seats around. Perhaps that is one difference.

Maybe.

If that is the case then the stadium management company should be using this added visual aid to advise the club to send direct emails to the perpetrators to moderate their language rather than put a a virtual ASBO order on their seats to find next match.

But that's the name of the game here: dont deal with anything on a private basis, just put a load of stickers down to unsettle the rest of the crowd into behaving exactly the way the stadium management company wants them to behave: buy stuff; take your seat; buy stuff at HT; take your seat; buy stuff and leave the stadium.

 

[davek]

Too much inuedo about what the actual reason for the cards is over the last couple of pages.
Anyone have first or second hand info on the nature of the language being used?

There’s a couple of pretty obvious reaches in the absence of decent info and it would be seriously disappointing if that were case given the sheer number of cards being put out.

Are they just putting them out in blocks where it’s reported or are they narrowed down to within a seat or two (if not specific seats)

Sounds like they're trying to use fan groups to do their work for them to moderate behaviour and mould the consumer.

It's all about control of the space. There's some helmets who go to university to learn all this stuff in crackpot behavioural science - then they monetise it by working for the commercial sector to suppress other people.

Remember the golden rule: Always Be Consuming.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[NathDogg]

Please share the insight why you think that way? If you have evidence that goes beyond what I have had passed on to me and @duncs pigeon has seen first hand then it would be good to know.

People directly behind me, or a seat or two along from me or in front of my seat received these cards.

There was nothing “ugly” aside from a few choice Examples of industrial language, such as ffs/ffing shabite/Koff refs/cheating cnut etc. if that is considered ugly then we might as well all pack in.

Shithouses in the fanbase not dealing with perps as it happens.

No racism or homophobia at all.

Bored of saying this in this thread.

 

[Rita_Poon]

weaponised university behavioral sciences. exploited via capitalism.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I was in said meeting, swearing not the issue.

Actions > whatever is said behind closed doors,

There's multiple cards, and so, a distinction made;

Nah, there's multiple stickers. Photos have been shared in here.

Some specifically ref discriminatory language, others foul and abusive language. Others ref vaping and persistent standing.

So there's a clear differential made/warning of foul and abusive language vs discriminatory language.

Ultimately, in my view;

Disappointed to see the public name and shame continue.

They're careful with language to avoid legalities but in my view, they they can, and should address concerns directly.

They can email/contact any section of the crowd, by seat or area to ref reports of obscene and/or defamatory language.

If Everton can email me to tell me what sausage roll I can buy in my section and club legend Stuart Barlow will be on the concourse, then they can also email me/immediate area to ref any concern they have.

They have contact details of every single person in every single seat.

 

[The binman chronicles]

People directly behind me, or a seat or two along from me or in front of my seat received these cards.

There was nothing “ugly” aside from a few choice Examples of industrial language, such as ffs/ffing shabite/Koff refs/cheating cnut etc. if that is considered ugly then we might as well all pack in.

Shithouses in the fanbase not dealing with perps as it happens.

No racism or homophobia at all.

Bored of saying this in this thread.

As I said it could be open to abuse, perhaps the people around have embellished. If you swear in the heat of the moment when everyone else is bemoaning a call then I don't think anything would happen. If a minute later you shout out the ref is a cheating C-Word when it's pretty quiet, then perhaps that might be enough?

 

[Rita_Poon]

They have contact details of every single person in every single seat.

Not to go all sourpuss, sadly the spectre of 'headlock gate' hangs over the communications team re misbehaviour.