Stan Collymore Tonight

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I asked how much it would cost to buy the club. Kenwright is not going to sell to someone who can do no more than him. So it would cost more, he is only going to sell to someone who can bring more money to the table. So if your having to buy the club's shares, service their debts, sort out the stadium and give the manager more money then Kenwright can, then it will cost more than 80m.

It's not that difficult to understand is it?

It would cost £xxm to buy the Club.

It would then cost £xxm to take the Club forward.

Irrespective of what these figures are, the question posed was "How much do you think it would cost to buy the Club".

Not "How much do you think it would cost to buy the Club, then take the Club forward."

Go to bed.
 
It was an approx figure, but it's still more than 80m.

Well I don't claim to be the foremost authority but the total number of shares was somewhere in the low to mid thirty thousands the last time I recall reading about it & the last time I heard the share price being discussed it was less than £1500. £80 million would either mean thre are now about 50,000 shares, & I'm pretty sure that there hasn't been a major share issue in recent times, or that the share value has shot up to around £2,500 which also seems a little unlikely at the moment.
 
the only way forward logically is the new stadium ( ouch ) as long as the capacity is greatly improved and a state of the art academy that could attract the best young teenage players in europe,
and a more organised transfer stratagy
 
Isin't this a Collymore thread? I'll be quick. Any ex RS employees should be treated with circumspection, but I have never had any lime with Mr Colly, Villa supporter, and I remember back when he made his name with Stafford before hitting the big time, with Crystal Palace (that sounds damn silly), he made his name at Forest as a prolific scorer before a big money move to them in the summer of 1995 and scored the goal of the month that August against Sheffield Wednesday on the opening day, I clearly remember it. Never get tired of hearing that unique accent either. No problem with Collymore, listen when i can on talksport, ok, carry on Kenwright...
 
Isin't this a Collymore thread? I'll be quick. Any ex RS employees should be treated with circumspection, but I have never had any lime with Mr Colly, Villa supporter, and I remember back when he made his name with Stafford before hitting the big time, with Crystal Palace (that sounds damn silly), he made his name at Forest as a prolific scorer before a big money move to them in the summer of 1995 and scored the goal of the month that August against Sheffield Wednesday on the opening day, I clearly remember it. Never get tired of hearing that unique accent either. No problem with Collymore, listen when i can on talksport, ok, carry on Kenwright...

He beats up women, ffs. The guys a scum bag.
 
Well this was my question:

Out of interest, how much do you think it would cost to buy this club?
100 mill or so? something in that region prolly more if stadium gets built.

Need a couple of hundred mill to move it on to the point we where at 23 years ago..:blink:
 
November I believe, and Kenwright will not get as much money as you think. he probably won't even give up his shares, he will still be chairman - that is what I am led to believe, and why Moyes took so long to sign his contract, as he wanted assurances that Kenwright would not be ousted.

If this was the case, how many of you would be willing to lose moyes to get kenwright out. Personaally i'd be devastated, but id have to lose moyes. Everton F.C could recover from losing David Moyes ... we will not, will not recover from moving to some 2-bit [Poor language removed] hole.
 
If this was the case, how many of you would be willing to lose moyes to get kenwright out. Personaally i'd be devastated, but id have to lose moyes. Everton F.C could recover from losing David Moyes ... we will not, will not recover from moving to some 2-bit [Poor language removed] hole.


This I agree with . Losing Moyes would probably knock us back hard . BUT if we had the right people at the helm making the right noises . We could attract a great manager . Alot of top class coaches would jump at the chance to manage Everton anyway but if we had people with money involved at the club that line would get longer & longer
 
The shares said to be owned by BK etc are actually held in a holding company so it is that company that actually owns the club. Ti control the club the holding company has to be bought. Now who owns the shares in the holding company.

It has all been constructed in such a way to make a take over very difficult. The club is a private company and thus is much harder to get control of than a plc whose shares are listed and open to purchase. In the case of the 2 reds the majority shareholder sold out which forced the remaining share holders to sell.

In our case that is very difficult, BK owns 25% but can be out voted if Earl and Woods join together similarly if Earl wanted to sell or Woods.

The stadium is an issue but not as much as the way the shares are sorted and BK will IMO never give up no matter what porkies he has to tell us to help him hang on. Remember Fortress.
 
The shares said to be owned by BK etc are actually held in a holding company so it is that company that actually owns the club. Ti control the club the holding company has to be bought. Now who owns the shares in the holding company.

It has all been constructed in such a way to make a take over very difficult. The club is a private company and thus is much harder to get control of than a plc whose shares are listed and open to purchase. In the case of the 2 reds the majority shareholder sold out which forced the remaining share holders to sell.

In our case that is very difficult, BK owns 25% but can be out voted if Earl and Woods join together similarly if Earl wanted to sell or Woods.

The stadium is an issue but not as much as the way the shares are sorted and BK will IMO never give up no matter what porkies he has to tell us to help him hang on. Remember Fortress.


True blue holding was dissolved mate after Gregg left - so as far as i am aware there is no holding company for Woods or Bill. I think Earls shares are held in a holding company though.
 
Well that makes it very strange so the info on the other thread "Who owns Everton" is way offline.

Makes me wonder then how are the shares now held, I doubt that they are in personal portfolios..
 
Well that makes it very strange so the info on the other thread "Who owns Everton" is way offline.

Makes me wonder then how are the shares now held, I doubt that they are in personal portfolios..

Why not mate a lot of the shares are in private ownership the shareholders association has over 200 members.

Heres a bit of info:

Shares in Everton FC Co Ltd are closely held. They are privately traded and do not often become available, rare transactions generally being through the club's brokers, Blankstone Sington (0151 707 1707). There is no official share price, so the cost of shares is governed by how much one is prepared to sell or pay for them, with the price dropping significantly for bulk lots. Individual shares are currently changing hands for somewhere in the range of £1,250 to £1,500. Everton's annual accounts include a listing of share ownership at Board level. This was the situation at the end of May 2006:


Bill Kenwright 8,754 Shares
Robert Earl 7,845 Shares
John Woods 6,622 Shares
Keith Wyness 0 Shares

Interestingly, the Articles of Association used to require that each director hold at least 3 shares in The Company... Paul and Anita Greg left the Board after selling their shares to Robert Earl in 2006. Sir Philip Carter (721 Shares), Keith Tamlin (119 Shares) and Arthur Abercromby (1,935 Shares) all left the Board in the summer of 2004.

The current share value (December 2006) is is probably around the £1,200 paid by Robert Earl for the Greegs' shares, with 35,000 shares outstanding. This gives the club a nominal book-value of around £30M. Almost 25,000 shares were held by True Blue Holdings, the consortium Bill Kenwright put together (with the help of Paul Gregg and John Woods) to buy out Peter Johnson in 1999 (see below). TBH was voluntarily wound up on 2 December 2004. Paul Gregg and family later sold theri approximately 8,145 Everton shares, making a £2M profit on their £7M investment in the Club.

Lord Grantchester used to own 2,773 (7.9%) Everton shares... perhaps he still does? That leaves around 5,600 owned by others, including regular fans with as few as one share each.
 
Stan is one of the better critics, he shows no bias in his views, his Monday column in the Mirror is always a good read, and is a good co-comentator on 5 live.

Nice one Stan(y)(y)
 
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