Sean Dyche

[GrandOldTeam]

The team downed tools on him after TFG came in because they knew he was going? So can we explain how the poor form started before TFG came in???

... Yeah, so nobody said any of this.

 

[Swartzy]

He’s doing the lords work in here for sure

Might cancel my evening plans and hammer the absolute blasphemy of the last few pages.

You know it's bad when he has to resort to Multi-Quote's.

I'm sure he respects you more now after today..

 

[Nymzee]

... Yeah, so nobody said any of this.

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Dyche said after the defeat once TFG come in that the team don't listen/his methods no longer work - the team knew he was off in a few months no matter what.

 

[Efcjake]

So, this isn't a thing, no?




Just... made up?

I was going off of my interpretation of what you were claiming Dyche had said.

It's what you wrote.

You wrote here that Dyche said the team wasn't listening because they knew he was off in a few months

You wrote this as the justification for him going and asking for his sack and pay off.

You have to admit when the gig is up.

In any walk of life, if the team I'm managing stopped listening to me, then yes - I'd leave/be placed on gardening leave.

Dyche said after the defeat once TFG come in that the team don't listen/his methods no longer work - the team knew he was off in a few months no matter what.

Like this summer, the owners either have to back Moyes, or change him. You can't have a manager with months on his contract.

It all comes across as trying to find any reason other than his managerial and tactical failings for why the form was so bad that last season.

 

[MikeH72]

Lads can we talk about how a fake 47% win ratio was spammed in here for weeks after his Forest sacking and look back on who was pushing this and why?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Dyche forced the issue, and walla.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Spurs fans on the radio actually want to reduce themselves to this level, mad they are, its their only hope I guess.

 

[MikeH72]

Also, if you hate David Moyes you must be fuming at Dyche for appointing him as Everton manager upon his departure.

 

[COYBL25]

Ah of course you will. Coincidentally after I've asked a few times for the below source/link that I assumed I'd missed;





I'm going to assume you've proven my point about making things up again and the below was just made up;

Honestly, in near 20 years of running this forum I've never known someone just make things up as much as you. It's remarkable. It has me thinking I'm losing my marbles.

I don’t think @Efcjake comes anywhere near @davek for making stuff up tbh.

Dave is in a league of his own on that one

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The team downed tools on him after TFG came in because they knew he was going? So can we explain how the poor form started before TFG came in???

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Yeah, nobody on this forum said what you've just said there. Nobody on this forum is saying the team downed tools on him after TFG came in because they knew he was going.

The quote you've shared there, part of a much wider point is me saying what Dyche said - after the first defeat we had after TFG come in, he said his players weren't listening.

I was going off of my interpretation of what you were claiming Dyche had said.

It's what you wrote.

You wrote here that Dyche said the team wasn't listening because they knew he was off in a few months

You wrote this as the justification for him going and asking for his sack and pay off.





It all comes across as trying to find any reason other than his managerial and tactical failings for why the form was so bad that last season.

It comes across as you making things up again mate, coincidentally as I said you often do a few pages back and trying to squirm out of it when "I'll leave it there" failed.

 

[Nymzee]

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Yeah, nobody on this forum said what you've just said there. Nobody on this forum saying the teams downed tools on him after TFG came in because they knew he was going.

The quote you've shared there, part of a much wider point is me saying what Dyche said - after the first defeat we had after TFG come in, he said his players weren't listening.



It comes across as you making things up again mate, and trying to squirm out of it when "I'll leave it there" failed.

I never said anyone on the forum said anything.

Dyche literally said, according to you, the players downed tools after TFG because they knew he was off. So explain why they actually downed tools before then.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I don’t think @Efcjake comes anywhere near @davek for making stuff up tbh.

Dave is in a league Empire of his own on that one

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I never said anyone on the forum said anything.

Who is this directed at then?

The team downed tools on him after TFG came in because they knew he was going? So can we explain how the poor form started before TFG came in???

Dyche literally said, according to you, the players downed tools after TFG because they knew he was off. So explain why they actually downed tools before then.

Nope. None of that.

Dyche said the players weren't/had stopped listening after the first defeat under TFG. /End.

 

[Nymzee]

Who is this directed at then?





Nope. None of that.

Dyche said the players weren't/had stopped listening after the first defeat under TFG. /End.

So you’re saying before the first defeat under TFG the players were still on board with him? As results definitely don’t suggest that.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

So you’re saying before the first defeat under TFG the players were still on board with him? As results definitely don’t suggest that.

No?

I've commented on what Sean Dyche actually said.

Nothing more - nothing less.

And the context was;

Finally got round to listening to this and picked out this part as my favourite (33:50 onwards)

"So I spoke to the club to be fair to them, well to Kev Thelwell, I had an honest chat with him and said look I can smell that this is changing, I'm not doing two years of graft here for this to go the wrong way. I said no chance. So we're leaving this in good shape, remember they're outside of the bottom zone, the team are in good shape physically."

Since when has giving up on us 1 point out of the relegation zone leaving us in good shape, Sean???

And you also didn't leave us - you waited for a pay off.

You just didn't want a relegation on your CV you arsehole.

If I was him, I'd have done the same thing. So that makes me an arsehole.

Managers have a shelf life, its when not if things go stale and it stopped working for him.

I always shared a view that he was going nowhere until new owners come in, when that happened, after the first defeat under those owners, when he admitted players stopped listening that he had to go.

I felt his job was to keep our heads above water until we got new owners. He did that, much better than I expected.

You'd give up on doing your job to try and protect your CV of a relegation?

Then yeh, arsehole too.

You have to admit when the gig is up.

In any walk of life, if the team I'm managing stopped listening to me, then yes - I'd leave/be placed on gardening leave.

That's not me saying his team stopped listening to him, clearly, I, nor anyone would have no clue if that was the case.