The board doesn't pick the team. Dyche had options, he chose bizarrely again and then didn't react to his own mistake until it was waaaaaaaay too late.
He's a huge symptom, yes, but one that can be worked upon, if it wasn't so stubborn.
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He's a huge symptom, yes, but one that can be worked upon, if it wasn't so stubborn.
Unfortunately he blew the whistle before the goal was scored. I think this is why VAR could not award the goal even though even they knew it was a bad decision.
Ragnar
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Who else is he supposed to play.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
The fixation on Maupay misses the point. I wouldn't play Maupay - he's out of his depth - but when the manager has a choice of him, some reserve like Dobbin who's making up the squad numbers, and a mysteriously absent DCL, well, the issue goes way beyond team selection. The fixation should be on why this is what he has to work with.
Furthermore, while I wouldn't play Maupay, there's every possibility that Dobbin would prove himself similarly useless. As Simms was. The question therefore is: why is our manager working with such garbage? Why have the hierarchy not addressed this? Oh, they were too busy securing their "interim" places on the board...
Accountability starts at the top. When we hold Moshiri and Kenwright accountable, we can have at Dyche. Lambasting him while the board laughs behind their sleeves is utterly self-defeating for this fanbase. Nothing changed over the summer. People expecting something better weren't paying attention. Until we have new ownership, we are stuck in this purgatory.
Furthermore, while I wouldn't play Maupay, there's every possibility that Dobbin would prove himself similarly useless. As Simms was. The question therefore is: why is our manager working with such garbage? Why have the hierarchy not addressed this? Oh, they were too busy securing their "interim" places on the board...
Accountability starts at the top. When we hold Moshiri and Kenwright accountable, we can have at Dyche. Lambasting him while the board laughs behind their sleeves is utterly self-defeating for this fanbase. Nothing changed over the summer. People expecting something better weren't paying attention. Until we have new ownership, we are stuck in this purgatory.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Based on yesterday we're not far away from a 10th-12th team when you have McNeil, Danjuma and a competent CF in the side. If we can get Beto/Ekitite and Gnonto over the line we'll be fine.
Europe/a trophy win is not realistic this season which is why we need to just let Dyche/Thelwell build the team and stop demanding for heeds to roll as soon as we lose a game.
Yesterday was a far cry away from last season where Lampard had us hurdling towards relegation.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
You're right mate however what makes this corrupt in my eyes is that the whistle had blown for FT in the Utd/Brighton game when VAR then decided to restart the game to give Utd a penalty.
They literally make it up as they go a long but our club / fanbase just roll over and accept it time after time.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
He had terrible options. As long as fans prefer to demonise the hapless manager in the dugout - whoever he is, turn a blind eye to the ownership, and buy their season tickets to fill that ground to watch that garbage, we are going round and round in circles.
lopetegui would last 1 month with ourshow. Just don't understand people suggesting manager replacements after 1 game where we dominated in terms of chances created, which in my opinion, is one of the most important aspects of the game.
Grouping iwobi with those 2 clowns is crazy. Iwobi created a lot of our chances yesterday, criticising him is unfair when he was completely fine. He has a place in the team but that's down the middle. He simply is not a winger. Dyche isn't going to drop the most creative player statistically last season!
Agree on your other points, Keane should not be playing and Garner is not a winger.
Iwobi isn't disciplined nor good enough to play centrally.
The midfield went to pot when he was central with us. He lacks football intelligence to be in such an important part of the pitch.
We're in a league in the bottle 10 mate, what annoyed be about yesterday is Fulham are in that league to.
If he has to start Maupay - second half we had 2 young strikers on the bench, put either on.
Instead, 75 min, a winger up top - Danjuma.
Which one of us, me included, has turned a blind eye to the board here? Jesus do people have such a hard on to just involve the board in anything?
We're talking about Sean Dyche, in the Sean Dyche thread.
He's a mediocre manager, nothing to do with the board.
Poor subs, nothing to do with the board.
Inability to adapt, nothing to do with the board.
Playing favourites, nothing to do with the board.
All of those are ON SEAN DYCHE.
Yes, I know, the board hired him, but we can't just go "well I dunno we can't ask for better CuZ ThE BoArD" you lunatic(s).
Hee very inflexible and reactionary. He doesn't really know how to improve attacking players. And he has been given zero backing
Will be an extremely long season
Will be an extremely long season
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £70m
I think to his credit, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by Dyche’s tactics they’re not as route one as I anticipated… somewhat direct but not hoofing it.
I think we need to take stock and realise where we are and what we need. Dyche isn’t the manager we want leading us for the next 10-15 years, but we needed to start doing the basics right again.
I lost count last year and over the years under Roberto, Koeman, Allardyce etc where the players were not up for the fight.. that’s on recruitment. West Ham away when we were passing round the back at 2-0 down was a defining point to me.
I’m seeing enough to feel confident. It’s imperative we beat wolves and potentially take something from villa, would be a huge boost. The striker is the big difference. I’m putting nothing on Chermiti, we need someone, because Maupay will not hack it. I don’t think he’s a favourite, unlike Keane, he’s being played because we’ve got no one else. That’s more on the board, they’ve known we needed someone alongside Richarlison and DCL, and brought in Rondon. Since they’ve we’ve brought in Maupay and DCL Is made of glass.
Yesterday he brought on Danjuma too laye and it’s my big criticism of Dyche that he doesn’t make subs quick enough… Leicester away last season for example, which was crying out for Demarai Gray.
But let’s hope it works out, I think we’ll turn some of those horrific defeats like Southampton, Brighton, Wolves, Leicester at home into victories and be able to have a less stressful season (safe before Luton away ha ha!).
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
But you don't show anything like the same anger in the board thread. You are focused on a symptom - not the problem. You are looking for a quick fix when the real fix is much more problematic. The problem is in the boardroom. A competent board would almost certainly not have hired Sean Dyche - so, yes, it's ALL on the board. They would have had other options to manage a club with better prospects. Attacking the manager - flawed as he undoubtedly is - is now utterly self-defeating, completely misses the point of where the fundamental issue is, and plays into the board's hands. It keeps the heat off them. Dyche is their shield.
Without change at the top, a quicker substitution here or a selection of Lewis Dobbin there isn't going to radically transform our season or prospects. We need new ownership. In the absence of that, it's all piss and wind.
Ralphie Boy
Player Valuation: £8m
Keane was out of position for Fulhams goal, school yard football following thell!
Because it's going in circles saying how much we hate them and it's pointless, just read it if there's anything new, there isn't, I continue existing.
For what it's worth I was in the Kenwright thread whenever it was bumped last season hoping/expecting/asking if he had resigned or died.
And you're fixed on the BiG PiCtUrE and can't see that the smaller picture is crayons and feces in equal measure on the wall as well, using the same logic.
Dyche isn't without criticism because the board is crap. If I come to work and do my job horrendously no one's gonna say "ah yeah but that CEO of the company though, he's at fault", they'll blame me.
With a quicker substitution here, Lewis Dobbin scoring (for example) there, winning A GAME OF FOOTBALL - at least we won't be getting relegated.
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