2023/24 Sean Dyche

[ForeverEverton]

Slept on it, still a dreadful performance and showing m yesterday, and his subs drive me crackers.

Having said that, in a fair, non points deducted world, dyche has got this group of frauds to 12th position, on 27 points, just 2 behind the new money horse punchers, he’s done a very job on reflection.

I will still moan at his tactics and subs though. UTFT!

When we are defending we have our wingers playing as wing backs, a back 4 with wing backs which in the transition is hard to get them wingers in behind.

The same with our full backs, they very rarely offer anything on the overlap until we are losing... Dyche just has no idea how to take a game to the opposition or go out to have a go, Gary O`Neil and Rob Edwards have schooled Dyche twice each this season.

Even Luton at times were playing some decent football on the deck, just embarassing!

 

[Charlie Sweet]

There in lies the issue with Dyche, as I`ve always said, at home when you are the team that needs to do the attacking he has no idea how to set up.

Obviously away games are different as you can sit in because the home team will always attack.

Exactly this. He has no attacking game plan.

Rather have kept Frank we’d have younger players and potential to improve. Can’t see us improving with this type of football.

Agree with the last sentence but you can't hide lampard was awful. It's just we've replaced him with a big fraud.

Defensive side haha, that ls working isn’t what is 4 goals in 8 games, maybe we need better attackers, just a thought. First we shouldn’t be setting up defensively v Luton. City, Liverpool, arsenal fair enough. But not crap like Luton. And you’re acting like Harrison and McNeil are very good players in poor form. McNeil was pants at Burnley most of the time and has had a 3 month purple patch here, over than that, he’s been useless and Harrison is rubbish. Nobody is telling me danjuma or dobbin wouldn’t have done any worse today

Luton were the better team yesterday.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Exactly this. He has no attacking game plan.


Agree with the last sentence but you can't hide lampard was awful. It's just we've replaced him with a big fraud.




Luton were the better team yesterday.

When Luton have beaten us twice at home it is hard to argue we are the better side overall....

 

[Nymzee]

It's a risk that could go either way

But right now it's not working, so risks have to be taken. Lose trying nothing new, or lose trying to do something different?

 

[daza_1973]

Another bleak mid winter for everton just like the last two - that ultimately cost the managers their jobs.
We just seem to go to sleep early December and try and wake up mid to late February. Its crazy.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Another bleak mid winter for everton just like the last two - that ultimately cost the managers their jobs.
We just seem to go to sleep early December and try and wake up mid to late February. Its crazy.

Poor managers tend to prove how bad they are after time, right now Dyche hasn`t won a PL game since December and we will be in nearly February by time we next play.

He has lost his way, no doubt about that, I don`t think he will change and ultimately be the latest in managers that bite the bullet around the 1 year mark.

 

[Deleted member 50501]

Poor managers tend to prove how bad they are after time, right now Dyche hasn`t won a PL game since December and we will be in nearly February by time we next play.

He has lost his way, no doubt about that, I don`t think he will change and ultimately be the latest in managers that bite the bullet around the 1 year mark.

Why do you think we're in any position for a manager to bite the bullet?

We're facing the possibility of a second points deduction, have absolutely no money to pay out any manager contracts, and should be sitting 2 pts off Newcastle with 26 points. Dyche wasn't responsible for that 10 point deduction.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The style he plays is woeful to watch. If you get results then people will live with it. If you lose games like that without even trying to play football, then you deserve criticism.

He is extremely inflexible and one dimensional with his approach. The inability to find solutions to the Doucoure injury is an enormous issue, and a huge shortcoming for him. And I don't understand why he is so negative and passive in his approach at home. The results at home have been largely abysmal so his approach is certainly not being vindicated. It shouldn't be acceptable to sit on the back foot and not even try to assert pressure on opponents at GP.

Yesterday was as bad as it gets from a coach at this level of football. The wrong selection. The wrong system. The wrong game plan. Too stubborn to change it. Too late to change it. And totally disorganised defensively, especially at set plays. Even though we know exactly how Luton want to play.

It's not acceptable for him to be so badly out thought by an opposing coach. It's not acceptable to win this few home games.

I'm bored of us just going nowhere and stuck in an endless cycle of misery. At some point we have to try and be a football team who want to win and want to build something. I'm thoroughly fed up.

 

[Deleted member 50501]

Exactly this. He has no attacking game plan.


Agree with the last sentence but you can't hide lampard was awful. It's just we've replaced him with a big fraud.




Luton were the better team yesterday.

'we've replaced him with a big fraud'

No, we've replaced him with someone who is 10 points better off than Lampard last year. Dyche would have us comfortably away from relegation if not for 10 pt deduction and that's what we all wished for. Mid table stability.

 

[Deleted member 50501]

Exactly this. He has no attacking game plan.


Agree with the last sentence but you can't hide lampard was awful. It's just we've replaced him with a big fraud.




Luton were the better team yesterday.

'he has no attacking game plan'

That's a completely reactionary statement. Creating the most chances with a full squad and limiting most chances we've had in years. People are losing their minds since Doucoure has got injured and Gana has left for AFCON. Stating things that just aren't true.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Why do you think we're in any position for a manager to bite the bullet?

We're facing the possibility of a second points deduction, have absolutely no money to pay out any manager contracts, and should be sitting 2 pts off Newcastle with 26 points. Dyche wasn't responsible for that 10 point deduction.

1 win in 8, do you think he survives when that is 1 in 11? 1 in 16? 1 in 20?

Or is he now exempt from any type of bad form? He now has a free pass does he? Even without the points deduction 27 gets you relegated...

 

[ToffeeTim]

'he has no attacking game plan'

That's a completely reactionary statement. Creating the most chances with a full squad and limiting most chances we've had in years. People are losing their minds since Doucoure has got injured and Gana has left for AFCON. Stating things that just aren't true.

It's absolutely fair to say he has no attacking gameplan without Doucoure

His complete lack of ideas on how to play without him, shows how limited he is as a coach. A good coach doesn't allow performances to drop so dramatically after a single injury. A good coach would have worked it out by now considering this issue first came up last April with his 3 game ban.

 

[RomanReigns]

he has unfortunately inherited a squad devoid of any creativity or attacking prowess or the ability to retain possession or pass a ball

 

[ToffeeTim]

1 win in 8, do you think he survives when that is 1 in 11? 1 in 16? 1 in 20?

Or is he now exempt from any type of bad form? He now has a free pass does he? Even without the points deduction 27 gets you relegated...

He isn't going to be sacked. Nor should we be even considering another managerial search at a period when we have no leadership.

But he is an extremely average and limited manager. And his game plan yesterday was shambolic for a coach at this level. He deserves criticism for the last few weeks, and he is a poor manager at this level IMO, but we aren't going to sack him. There is no one even in charge to appoint a new manager.

 

[ForeverEverton]

The style he plays is woeful to watch. If you get results then people will live with it. If you lose games like that without even trying to play football, then you deserve criticism.

He is extremely inflexible and one dimensional with his approach. The inability to find solutions to the Doucoure injury is an enormous issue, and a huge shortcoming for him. And I don't understand why he is so negative and passive in his approach at home. The results at home have been largely abysmal so his approach is certainly not being vindicated. It shouldn't be acceptable to sit on the back foot and not even try to assert pressure on opponents at GP.

Yesterday was as bad as it gets from a coach at this level of football. The wrong selection. The wrong system. The wrong game plan. Too stubborn to change it. Too late to change it. And totally disorganised defensively, especially at set plays. Even though we know exactly how Luton want to play.

It's not acceptable for him to be so badly out thought by an opposing coach. It's not acceptable to win this few home games.

I'm bored of us just going nowhere and stuck in an endless cycle of misery. At some point we have to try and be a football team who want to win and want to build something. I'm thoroughly fed up.

Bang on , schooled by Edwards twice and O`Neil twice already this season...

We don`t even look like we are bothered putting a performance in, we wouldn`t have scored yesterday had the defender not slipped and the GK didn`t make an error. We never looked like scoring yesterday and it has been that way for a while, we have gone back to having 1 or 2 shots on target every 90 minutes.