Scottish football

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To be completely fair the blame for Saturday has to be apportioned towards Hibs surely ? It wasn't Hibs players and staff that were assaulted , I've said earlier Rangers have responsibility for much in the past but the Hibs fans behaviour on Saturday is indefensible and the Clubs reaction has been more what I'd expect from kopites if I'm honest as they seems to have almost ignored the events . Mikey for example who seems a thoroughly decent fella and a football fan has done more to condemn the actions of those who assaulted players than his clubs hierarchy and that surely can't be right can it ?

Rangers reaction of moaning and crying is thoroughly Kopite crying mate. Rangers fans were on the pitch fighting too. That bit has been completely minimised by their statement. Basically Rangers and Hibs fans got on the pitch for a fight, Rangers lost and now seem to think they are a moral authority in demanding enquiries. Start by ensuring your own fans don't encroach on the field of play before shouting the odds would be my advise.
 
I think youll find that the scottish premier league, sfa and uefa will confirm what trophies rangers have, though the usual green brigade suspects are too thick to understand this

I can assure you it's not a lack of intelligence that prevents me from being sceptical that a football club who were only founded 4 years ago are elevating themselves to kopite levels of delusion ie "the best club in the woooorrld".

It's nonsense. They won trophies based on players they couldn't afford and subsequently never paid for (including Michael Ball). I'm glad we rubbed their nose in it and took their star player Steven Naismith in a free, not because I particularly wanted him just because I knew we'd starve them of a few pennies when they were most in need.

Rangers went bust, anyone with any degree of humility, decency and integrity would have not laid claims to trophies won on the back of cheating. But Rangers share the same rat like DNA of their kopite breathren so such behaviour will be well beyond them. They went bust the new club have won the square root of rop all.

Kopites of the north and inherently rooted to the scab DNA they both share.
 
Rangers supporters do seem to be let off the hook a bit here

I mean, no one forced them onto a pitch for a punch up did they?

Rangers should also face fines and sanctions in my opinion, along with Hibs who should also face them

Still though, the Hibs supporters who attacked the players and coaches need the book throwing right at them
 
Rangers supporters do seem to be let off the hook a bit here

I mean, no one forced them onto a pitch for a punch up did they?

Rangers should also face fines and sanctions in my opinion, along with Hibs who should also face them

Still though, the Hibs supporters who attacked the players and coaches need the book throwing right at them

Nah Rangers have got the LFC approach to dealing with their own fans down to a tea.
1) Get the association in your pocket.
2) Lie, cheat, deceive.
3) partake in violence actions.
4) Blame everyone else
5) Blame opposition fans not at the event (United fans sing about Hillsborough/ every Celtic fan is a paid up member of the RA) that sort of crap.
6) Claim to be goaded
7) Claim a conspiracy against them
8) Remind everyone how many trophies they have(nt) won.
9) Partake in violent actions.

Rinse and repeat. Repeat. Repeat. The songs right, we should throw them all in the Mersey, we don't need scabs like that in society.
 
And I've never bought this whole "It's not Rangers anymore" argument

It most definately is Rangers, for better or worse

They haven't learnt their lesson though, as going for players like Barton and Kranjar shows, so never rule out the chances of a second liquidation

Dave King's pockets are not endless, and spurning Mike Ashley is probably not going to help things, aside from getting a bigger cut of the merchanise pie
 
Rangers reaction of moaning and crying is thoroughly Kopite crying mate. Rangers fans were on the pitch fighting too. That bit has been completely minimised by their statement. Basically Rangers and Hibs fans got on the pitch for a fight, Rangers lost and now seem to think they are a moral authority in demanding enquiries. Start by ensuring your own fans don't encroach on the field of play before shouting the odds would be my advise.

I don't think it's worth getting into a row mate as I suspect your position may well be entrenched , if not my apologies . I watched it on the telly and thoroughly enjoyed the match and in all honesty could completely understand the elation the Hibs fans felt but the footage of their behaviour isn't defensible . No doubt Rangers fans fought but let's be fair the players had already been attacked then . It's sad as it's hugely distracted from the massive historical achievement by Hibs .

I try and judge every situation by putting myself in the position of my club . If it was Everton I would be embarrassed about wholesale assaulting of players and would hope my club wouldn't put it down as over exuberance . Of course rangers fans fought and yiu won't find me defending fighting and you can see it on the footage but you have to accept things had already kicked off at that stage , Fotheringham was shoved fairly early on and the Hibs fans crossed the halfway line which again seems fairly obvious if you're looking to point the finger .

The old firm is polarised and opinions mean that any misdeed percieved or otherwise is jumped on by the other side . I've said before despite my upbringing , I have on occasion a enjoyed watching Rangers but in my life have watched and enjoyed both sides along with many others in Scotland and throughout Europe . I think like many though I find the old firm baggage & its polarised 'what-a-boutary' simply tiresome . Which is sad as at is best some of their contests although not being fantastic football can be hugely entertaining .
 
I can assure you it's not a lack of intelligence that prevents me from being sceptical that a football club who were only founded 4 years ago are elevating themselves to kopite levels of delusion ie "the best club in the woooorrld".

It's nonsense. They won trophies based on players they couldn't afford and subsequently never paid for (including Michael Ball). I'm glad we rubbed their nose in it and took their star player Steven Naismith in a free, not because I particularly wanted him just because I knew we'd starve them of a few pennies when they were most in need.

Rangers went bust, anyone with any degree of humility, decency and integrity would have not laid claims to trophies won on the back of cheating. But Rangers share the same rat like DNA of their kopite breathren so such behaviour will be well beyond them. They went bust the new club have won the square root of rop all.

Kopites of the north and inherently rooted to the scab DNA they both share.
You really are a bitter idiot, also celtic fans talk of their great connection with the [Poor language removed]
 
You really are a bitter idiot, also celtic fans talk of their great connection with the [Poor language removed]

That's another phrase borrowed from the orange-kopite rat DNA isn't it? Call all Evertonians trying to stand up to them and their atrocious behaviour bitter. See the post I made about the Kopite DNA of how to do things.

I know very few Celtic fans who identify with them. 90% of Rangers fans I've met go on about "Fenian bla bla" when I tell them I'm an Evertonian. Always makes me laugh, as when quizzed very few of them know the first thing about the Fenian movement! I digress, any Celtic fans that identify with the rats can get thrown in the Mersey alongside Rangers/Kopites are far as I'm concerned on grounds of stupidity. Identifying with a club that was founded off the back of scab labour from the founding fathers of the Liverpool Association of the Orange Lodge and friends of John Houlding need to have a serious look at themselves.

"You shouldn't hit people over the head with a paving slab" "oh [Poor language removed] off you you bitter, we're European Royalty we are."
"You should go onto a football pitch and fight with opposition fans" "oh you're a bitter idiot, we're the best club in the world we are."

I'll leave you to spot the similarities.
 
Isn't it strange that when a football achievement happens in Scotland that is actually worth talking about (NOT Celtic winning the league for example), fans are spending more time discussing the fighting afterwards?
Says rather a lot about Scottish football methinks!
Well Done to Hibernian by the way.
 
Didn't watch the game and have scant interest in football north of the border but it does appear to this neutral that Rangers are being a bit hard done by. Probably because of the whole Sevco thing and past history/behaviour.

If I saw a Spurs players and officials being attacked by opposition fans there is a good chance I would be on the pitch. If my knees would allow me to get over the barrier that is, which is unlikely.
 
I don't think it's worth getting into a row mate as I suspect your position may well be entrenched , if not my apologies . I watched it on the telly and thoroughly enjoyed the match and in all honesty could completely understand the elation the Hibs fans felt but the footage of their behaviour isn't defensible . No doubt Rangers fans fought but let's be fair the players had already been attacked then . It's sad as it's hugely distracted from the massive historical achievement by Hibs .

I try and judge every situation by putting myself in the position of my club . If it was Everton I would be embarrassed about wholesale assaulting of players and would hope my club wouldn't put it down as over exuberance . Of course rangers fans fought and yiu won't find me defending fighting and you can see it on the footage but you have to accept things had already kicked off at that stage , Fotheringham was shoved fairly early on and the Hibs fans crossed the halfway line which again seems fairly obvious if you're looking to point the finger .

The old firm is polarised and opinions mean that any misdeed percieved or otherwise is jumped on by the other side . I've said before despite my upbringing , I have on occasion a enjoyed watching Rangers but in my life have watched and enjoyed both sides along with many others in Scotland and throughout Europe . I think like many though I find the old firm baggage & its polarised 'what-a-boutary' simply tiresome . Which is sad as at is best some of their contests although not being fantastic football can be hugely entertaining .

Fair point mate, and I doubt either will shift their opinions!

I haven't defended Hibs actions and I agree running on the pitch and invoking violence is reprehensible. I do find it a bit rich though, that Ranger's who's fans also ran on the pitch are a tad hypocritical making such a song and dance over the issue. It is kopite behaviour at it's finest (not the first time either).

In all honesty had Everton behaved how either team did yesterday I would be appalled. It would not be becoming of our club and I would want want my club to ban the idiots identified in doing so, as they were dragging the name of Everton through the mud. There'd be no "magnificent 7" nonsense here.

People can choose whatever team they wish to support, it really is a free country. I've met a couple of decent Rangers lads (and my ex girlfriend was a big Rangers fan too). Most that I've met tend to hate us but that's just my experience. Footballs a funny game really and illogical. When you hate a team like I do Liverpool you end up finding out every bit of them and hating it all. I can't forgive the actions of John Houlding and the sorts of people he associated with. They were the Rangers of the South. I was also brought up singing the song about throwing Rangers fans (alongside Kopites) in the Mersey. It sticks with you really.

Good luck to anyone supporting anyone. I have no time for Rangers though and I do see a lot of parallels that remain tot his day with Kopites. There is an arrogance, an aggression and a subsequent victimhood that follows when no responsibility is taken. I'm sure others will see it differently, good luck to them.

As for the cup final it looks like both sets of fans behaved awfully. Only one club appears to be pointing the finger though. I would say they should look in the mirror before doing so, but I doubt they will.
 

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