This!! I just want somebody with a bit of football intelligence to pick a manager that fits us. No idea who that might be. Entirely possible that he has been an utter failure somewhere else.
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This!! I just want somebody with a bit of football intelligence to pick a manager that fits us. No idea who that might be. Entirely possible that he has been an utter failure somewhere else.
gorgeousgeorgeEFC
Player Valuation: £25m
At the end of the day we kept a clean sheet against one of the best RS sides of recent times. Yes, Salah was missing but they're still a top side who've got one foot in the semi-finals of the Champions League.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
lol...suffice to say that while three orifices have a proven 'green light' status (with one of these being a little 'yes...no'), nostrils (and ears*) are definitely a no go area
*NB : I'm unfamiliar with any quotes Einstein made regarding ear wax
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deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
we dominated a team competing in CL semi finals. Mister Allardyce is taking our team to places we've hitherto only dreamt of reaching. His contract extension should be assured.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
In isolation yes, but it is getting to the stage where even the Championship is loading up on foreign coaches. That is where the up and comers should be along their names and getting experience
They started a kid up top who hasn't scored in 30 games and lad who's gone through two knee surgeries in the past two years - despite all that space and time they had, those two were never going to trouble us.
Outside of that:
Mane - Went for the spectacular because he was 'headline act' with Salah injured and Firmino on the bench
Wijnaldum - Had two from distance that only troubled the stewards
Henderson - LOL
Milner - Just retire fella. That shot he forced the save from Pickford was the best he's ever hit a ball
Oxlade-Chamberlain - Had that driving run when he came on and then failed to do anything else
Firmino - Seemed to want to get through unscathed and ended up out wide instead of in the middle where he may have troubled us.
All in all, we kept a clean sheet against a side they'd put out in the League Cup third round. Ain't all that much to be proud of.
Bob Elstone
Player Valuation: £35m
Lol at people bigging up a home bore draw against a level B side.
It was embarrassing.
It was embarrassing.
Toffee in Jandals
Player Valuation: £35m
Sorry, that to me doesn't qualify as any kind of success. For 80 minutes yesterday we concentrated on not conceding, to the extent that James Milner - JAMES MILNER - was MOTM and ran the midfield during the game. We let Liverpool have 68% possession in a Goodison derby.
Only in the last ten minutes did we bother to try and threaten their goal. Imagine if we had a crack at them from the outset.
Allardyce is a coward whose first thought will always be to not lose a game of football rather than looking to win it. As Connor said, drawing with that lot, who arguably only had three or maybe four of their top XI playing, is nothing to be proud of, especially the way we went about it. At least if we drew 3-3, it would have shown that we at least had a good go.
I can't wait to see Allardyce's media statement expressing his disappointment at being sacked at the end of next month.
Get him out.
A lot of nonsence being spoken by some people here.Liverpool put out a second string side.And we fail yet again to beat them.Im sorry folks today was another bottle job.We are safe.We won't be getting relegated.So this Allardyce fella, no longer has any business being our manager.And there is quite a few players, who don't have any future here either.So it will be bit of a rebuilding job for the next manager.But that was yet another golden opportunity missed.
I suppose that is the glass half full view!For me though im disappointed.We badly needed a long overdue win against that lot.They put out a weakened team, and we still couldn't beat them.I suppose at least they are not rubbing another victory up against our faces!But overall though.Im disappointed.
Talking of ‘bigging-himself-up’ again, have a read of this
https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...-substituted-reaction-everton-liverpool-derby
And what about the ‘big impact(s)’ of not playing Vlasic, farming out Lookman and playing Bolasie?
Pathetic.
Oh btw sam, the real story is that we were bossed about by a reserve side, which looked like they had bigger ambitions in mind, until the last 15 minutes or so of the game, by which time they appeared to have lost interest altogether and just shut-up-shop. One of the most immemorable Derbies of all time as far as I’m concerned.
https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...-substituted-reaction-everton-liverpool-derby
And what about the ‘big impact(s)’ of not playing Vlasic, farming out Lookman and playing Bolasie?
Pathetic.
Oh btw sam, the real story is that we were bossed about by a reserve side, which looked like they had bigger ambitions in mind, until the last 15 minutes or so of the game, by which time they appeared to have lost interest altogether and just shut-up-shop. One of the most immemorable Derbies of all time as far as I’m concerned.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
The managers who've been sacked this year
Foreign coaches with no premier league experience
Frank De Boer
Foreign coaches with premier league experience
Koeman
Bilic
Silva
Pelligrino
British coaches with premier league experience
Craig Shakespeare
Pulis
Clement
Hughes
Pardew
Foreign coaches with no premier league experience in there first job in the country - Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Wenger, Carvalhal (Swansea) Wagner (Hull), Gracia (Watford) - the latter 3 teams where all strongly tipped to go down this season - none look like they will do now.
so thats 50% of the managers sacked in the league this season who are British, 40% who are foreign but have that 'invaluable' premier league experience, and one who was foreign without league experience.
of the current bottom 3 teams, West Brom where taken into the relegation zone by a British manager - sacked him and hired another and they have since absolutely nosedived
Stoke where taken into the relegation zone by a British manager, sacked him and hired another one - and have subsequently became worse
Southampton sacked a foreign manager when they where 3 points outside the relegation zone - they are now after hiring a British one 3 points adrift in that relegation zone.
The team they are all trying to chase to save themselves has been managed for the last 28 games by a British manager
Of the top 10 teams in the league - only 2 - Burnley and us are managed by British managers.
The one team that for a large part of the season looked an almost certainty to go down is Swansea - who where bottom of the league on 12 points when they sacked their British manager after 18 games, since then they have gained 20 points in their last 14 games and now look to be safe - after hiring a foreign manager with no premier league experience ofc
As for lauding the job Moyes has done at West Ham - has he done anything besides have one of his players suddenly start performing in Anautovic - the rest of that side looks as piss poor as it ever did under Bilic IMO
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Using British as the barometer rather than English - in the last ten years pretty much every single British manager hired by those teams has been an utter disaster as well
This was arguably one of our best opportunities to beat these lot, and yet we were still dominated by them for a considerable period of the match.
Credit where credit is due because we did finally take it to them in the last fifteen minutes, however I expect their eyes were then on Tuesday.
Far from being proud, I once again came away feeling deflated as we could have won it late on but also were far large swathes clearly second best.
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