Ross Barkley

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I'll try and take each point, which are all valid. I can't put a position that the Sun and Sky aren't heavily linked. We know they are. The media is one big racket in all honesty and his played a filthy role in society of the last 30 years. The Sun wrote what they wrote after Hillsborough, and perhaps more relevantly they have published what is racist language against Barkley. I accept and suspect the main cause her has been ignorance but it's their job not to make these mistakes. Either way, in fairness Sky haven't said those things. I do think the principle of judging people/organisations on what they do as opposed who they are alligned to is important. That being said I'm not averse to a call to boycott sky too, but I'm not sure we are there yet in terms of winning the wider argument?

I agree with you that some of what Anderson is now saying is not helpful. Attacking Mckenzie and attacking Everton Football Club are different things. He could have done one without the other. I think language such as "selling the city out" is a bit rich and you are right leaves him open to the accusation you have made. I also think it makes Evertonian's defensive, so thats not a great intervention at all.

That being said if you ask me, hand on heart if I had to pick a side; either supporters, campaign groups around Hillsborough, now probably Ross Barkley who will have had to have read that nonsense (and lets not forget having had to put up with years of rubbish from pundits and coaches scapegoating him) wanting to ban the Sun, or Moshiri, Kenwright and Elstone trying to keep up cosy relations with Jim White I know which side I am intuitively on. Whichever way we look at it, we have sold ourselves down the river going cap in hand to blokes like Jim White. How can Kenwright give the speech he does at the Hillsborough memorial and go along with that? We've had to do it, to be blunt because some two bob Murdoch spin knows how to market our club better than our own people and Moshiri hasn't shown the balls to bin off the chaff from the previous regime. That inertia is allowing a space for Newspapers to target our young players who have been subject to a cowardly assault (which you rightly pointed out could have been a lot worse) and shift the discourse away from one of sympathy to one of guilt on Barkley's part.

Forget letting the City down and other hyperbolic phrases that don't help, but if the old regimes inadequacy and the new ones cowardice allows the Sun to remain an active part we have let Ross Barkley down.

As a final aside, there is no way on earth Liverpool FC allow any newspaper to get away with this to one of their players. There's no way Alex Fergusan allows this to happen to a United player (remember him going on the attack re Cantona). He'd have personally battered any Sun journalists trying to get in after this. We are a nice club but we lack that ruthless self preservation that exists in clubs that are the best currently. Inaction over this will re-enforce that. To think we would sell Ross Barkley down the river so Moshiri can keep his relationship going with his mate at Talk sport.
Excellent post I agree wholeheartedly. I will add , I was uncomfortable with the clubs stance on this prior to the article, I am now angry. If the sole reason we are refusing to act on this is to maintain a relationship with Jim White then words fail me. Banning the paper from Goodison does not threaten the freedom of the press, people can still buy and read the rag if they wish.
 

Anderson has behaved disgracefully over this, though.
Yes he has taken it a step too far.
But lets not ignore the reason for his outburst,to put a picture of a gorilla with any mixed race player and totally demean all the hardworking people of Liverpool that have been successful as gangsters.
Disgusting behaviour and hopefully will be rightly punished.
I cant comment on the clubs stance , but I'm sure any able minded Blue would have banned that publication some time ago , but again we are not privvy to the legality involved.
 
Yes he has taken it a step too far.
But lets not ignore the reason for his outburst,to put a picture of any mixed race player and totally demean all the hardworking people of Liverpool that have been successful as gangsters.
Disgusting behaviour and hopefully will be rightly punished.
I cant comment on the clubs stance , but I'm sure any able minded Blue would have banned that publication some time ago , but again we are not privvy to the legality involved.

That isn't the reason for his outburst - his reason is that he wants to put himself at the head of this "ban the S*n" movement.

Never mind that the City as a whole banned the paper years ago, or that banning the football journalists of that paper wouldn't actually do anything except move them to another paper in the Murdoch stable, or even that we would continue to let the rest of his firms come in and in one case take over most of the place; he wants to have his mighty face stare down at us saying "I kicked the S*n out, vote for me".
 
Yes he has taken it a step too far.
But lets not ignore the reason for his outburst,to put a picture of a gorilla with any mixed race player and totally demean all the hardworking people of Liverpool that have been successful as gangsters.
Disgusting behaviour and hopefully will be rightly punished.
I cant comment on the clubs stance , but I'm sure any able minded Blue would have banned that publication some time ago , but again we are not privvy to the legality involved.
No one's disputing his right to attack the Sin and the old git that they employ....but attacking Everton ????? A step too far !
 

That isn't the reason for his outburst - his reason is that he wants to put himself at the head of this "ban the S*n" movement.

Never mind that the City as a whole banned the paper years ago, or that banning the football journalists of that paper wouldn't actually do anything except move them to another paper in the Murdoch stable, or even that we would continue to let the rest of his firms come in and in one case take over most of the place; he wants to have his mighty face stare down at us saying "I kicked the S*n out, vote for me".
I'd sooner not give any individual any relevence at all in this .
If we do it detracts from the reason that sparked the whole thing.
As Mayor & a fellow Blue he is right to to call it out , but that should be it .The relevant parties (police & press commision) should be left to do their job.
 
I don't think he was using it as a racist term, as if you walked down the street past Barkley you would never guess he has any Black ancestry. If the comment was made about Lukaku it would be very different. The main issue is the totally uncalled for attack on an innocent footballer, than led to this even more uncalled for bile by the Sun. Nobody should be blamed for being the victim of an unprovoked attack, especially not in this way. I agree with other posters I'm sick and tired of the Echo and other people plugging their crap, taking advantage of the Hillsbrough tragedy. The Echo isn't even staffed by many people from Liverpool anyway. Most of them are just divvies from outside of the city, who think all Scousers are the same, hence their ludicrous articles.
 

I don't get Andersons talk of turning your back on the team. We need to support our team especially Ross, not turn our backs. The club didn't make the abusive remarks. Protest against the disgusting journalism and the scumbag Mckenzie. But don't take it out on the team. I think we're losing sense of who really is to blame here.[/Q

He'll look a proper mug tomorrow when just him and his personal trainer are the only ones to turn ...:blush:
 

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