ProZ
Player Valuation: £40m
Oh ay mate no need to be going all the way to Blackpool and wasting your money on tickets.
The fly over on queens drive should be more than sufficient.
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The fly over on queens drive should be more than sufficient.
Jimmy Grimble
Player Valuation: £20m
If that was the case Ithink the club would have been far more supportive
Indeed. It's no coincidence that Ross has a 'MESTALLA 4EVA' tattoo on his inner thigh. Koeman's never confirmed to Ross about his wherabouts on 9/11 either, so I'm surprised he's stayed this long.
kenada_blue
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Ross Barkley melts steel beams.
jungleburger
Player Valuation: £750k
Is he going or staying then?
toffee66
Player Valuation: £10m
It is clear Koeman treats Ross exactly like any other player. He demands attention, hard work, improvement. Ross is seen by our new boss as ANO player not the golden child.
In fact I'd argue Koeman has been far harsher on several others. Niasse is the most obvious but Mirallas, Jagielka, Robles, Stekelenburg and Funes-Mori were all sent to the doghouse at various times. Mirallas responded well enough to earn a new contract. Jagielka regained his place and showed a big improvement. Stek and Robles both got yanked after a couple of bad games. No sentiment. No favouritism. It is who Koeman is as a manager. Perform or I'll pick someone else.
Ultimately Robles, Ross & F-M all remain too inconsistent to be automatic starters. They also all had obvious sulks. As a consequence they are now seen as squad players. Useful but expendable if the right offer comes along. That is fair enough for me. I like Ross. His talent is obvious but he's unreliable and I wouldn't build a team around him. I wouldn't want him in the starting line up in August based on his form last season.
The only people treating him differently are the fans who cling to him as one of our own and make excuses for him.
In fact I'd argue Koeman has been far harsher on several others. Niasse is the most obvious but Mirallas, Jagielka, Robles, Stekelenburg and Funes-Mori were all sent to the doghouse at various times. Mirallas responded well enough to earn a new contract. Jagielka regained his place and showed a big improvement. Stek and Robles both got yanked after a couple of bad games. No sentiment. No favouritism. It is who Koeman is as a manager. Perform or I'll pick someone else.
Ultimately Robles, Ross & F-M all remain too inconsistent to be automatic starters. They also all had obvious sulks. As a consequence they are now seen as squad players. Useful but expendable if the right offer comes along. That is fair enough for me. I like Ross. His talent is obvious but he's unreliable and I wouldn't build a team around him. I wouldn't want him in the starting line up in August based on his form last season.
The only people treating him differently are the fans who cling to him as one of our own and make excuses for him.
everton2004
Player Valuation: £35m
jungleburger
Player Valuation: £750k
Where to? And for how much? And where's this coming from, sauce?
Oooh you naughty boy
Not really !
Really just posted an answer to a poster who stated RK never lost the dressing room at Valencia!
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £30m
He was bettter last season than the previous 2 under Martinez but still far to inconsistant for me. If i was one of the other players, fully committed to the the team and my place in the starting 11 was taken up by him, a player who isn't signing a contract, appears to be looking to leave, i wouldn't be happy. Ross has (and i like him, he's clearly talented and i want him to stay) backed himself into a corner here where the manager can't trust him, his team mates may begin to phase him out and a large section of the fans will turn their backs on him.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
I'd like him to stay but if he wants out then so be it. I think it reflects worse on him than it does the club because a player with his ability, playing for his boyhood club should be wanting to progress within this current Everton setup. Qualified for Europe, spending big money on players, bringing through youth from the academy, just brought back one of England's greatest players and fellow Scouser Rooney, and are moving to a new Stadium in a few years.
If Ross doesn't want to fight and be part of that, then I question his mentality. Especially leaving for Spurs who have a won a single League Cup in the past 15 years, which isn't exactly a sign of a club that wins things in this era.
If Ross doesn't want to fight and be part of that, then I question his mentality. Especially leaving for Spurs who have a won a single League Cup in the past 15 years, which isn't exactly a sign of a club that wins things in this era.
Badge1878
Player Valuation: £8m
This saga has cast a shadow over what most view as a most positive transfer window. Although I want Barkley to stay I fear we've seen the last of him in a Blue shirt.
Koeman set his stall out - rightly or wrongly - and said he'd be sold if he's not signing as he had to prepare for the new season. He is the manager and calls the shots regarding team selection, so as preseason gathers momentum the longer any contract goes unsigned the less likely it'll ever be.
Koeman doesn't strike me as someone who says one thing but does another and he holds the power as to who plays for Everton each week or not.
There's a lot of media talk of Spurs as a destination should Ross move but I don't rule Man City out of the final equation. They've offloaded numerous squad players in midfield and top end of the pitch in Nolito, Navas & Zabaleta ended up playing centre mid! Likely departures of Bony, Nasri and Iheanacho - I think even the most casual observer would say Ross is stronger than Delph - so despite some arrivals there would appear to be space for another attacking midfielder.
The amount of possession City tend to have in games would suit him - yet they often fail to create chances - seems to suggest a potential squad role does exist. Added to the fact Ross would have less defensive duties than required at Everton I can see a late move for him and let's face it wages won't be an issue.
All conjecture, but I remember the picture of him and Stonesy some years back watching City in a CL game and thought at the time it was more than coincidence. I'm sure he'd jump at the opportunity if presented.
May never happen but nothing surprises me now in football. I hope he stays as we are stronger with him in our ranks but one thing is sure it'll get resolved shortly one way or the other.
Koeman set his stall out - rightly or wrongly - and said he'd be sold if he's not signing as he had to prepare for the new season. He is the manager and calls the shots regarding team selection, so as preseason gathers momentum the longer any contract goes unsigned the less likely it'll ever be.
Koeman doesn't strike me as someone who says one thing but does another and he holds the power as to who plays for Everton each week or not.
There's a lot of media talk of Spurs as a destination should Ross move but I don't rule Man City out of the final equation. They've offloaded numerous squad players in midfield and top end of the pitch in Nolito, Navas & Zabaleta ended up playing centre mid! Likely departures of Bony, Nasri and Iheanacho - I think even the most casual observer would say Ross is stronger than Delph - so despite some arrivals there would appear to be space for another attacking midfielder.
The amount of possession City tend to have in games would suit him - yet they often fail to create chances - seems to suggest a potential squad role does exist. Added to the fact Ross would have less defensive duties than required at Everton I can see a late move for him and let's face it wages won't be an issue.
All conjecture, but I remember the picture of him and Stonesy some years back watching City in a CL game and thought at the time it was more than coincidence. I'm sure he'd jump at the opportunity if presented.
May never happen but nothing surprises me now in football. I hope he stays as we are stronger with him in our ranks but one thing is sure it'll get resolved shortly one way or the other.
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