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Ronaldo, he is the greatest.

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The best Youtube video of a player I’ve seen has reminded me why Ronaldo is the greatest. Genuinely, there is nothing from any other player out there that comes close.




For the last five or six years I had Messi at #1, Ronaldo at #2 (the next three or four after that would usually be Zidane, Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo, Henry). Prior to this I thought Ronaldo would remain the greatest I’d ever see. Few years of Messi brilliance, and I’d have him at #1, which remained the case until now. Ronaldo has retaken the mantle for me. While I remembered how good Ronaldo was in his prime I’ve realised I had got caught up in the Messi vs Cristiano media circus, which so many have, the whole ‘which one is the greatest’ narrative. It’s sucked people in. This same recentism applies with the focus on football in the Premier League era, the whole “football didn’t exist before Sky” that so many criticise on here. This neglect of what happened before the Premier League, also applies to Ronaldo whenever this Messi vs Cristiano nonsense comes up.

I never put Cristiano anywhere near him as he doesn’t have his natural talent, those who worked with both (Mourinho, Van Nisetelrooy) say similar. Ronaldo’s footwork, dribbling, close ball control, the amount of breathtaking moments, he’s on another level completely, but I now also put him ahead of Messi as he had more tools in the bag, especially rapid speed.

He’s the greatest I’ve seen, and the fella that uploaded the video has reminded me of that.
 
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artetas_biggest_fan said:
The best Youtube video of a player I’ve seen has reminded me why Ronaldo is the greatest. Genuinely, there is nothing from any other player out there that comes close.




For the last five or six years I had Messi at #1, Ronaldo at #2 (the next three or four after that would usually be Zidane, Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo, Henry). Prior to this I thought Ronaldo would remain the greatest I’d ever see. Few years of Messi brilliance, and I’d have him at #1, which remained the case until now. Ronaldo has retaken the mantle for me. While I remembered how good Ronaldo was in his prime I’ve realised I had got caught up in the Messi vs Cristiano media circus, which so many have, the whole ‘which one is the greatest’ narrative. It’s sucked people in. This same recentism applies with the focus on football in the Premier League era, the whole “football didn’t exist before Sky” that so many criticise on here. This neglect of what happened before the Premier League, also applies to Ronaldo whenever this Messi vs Cristiano nonsense comes up.

I never put Cristiano anywhere near him as he doesn’t have his natural talent, those who worked with both (Mourinho, Van Nisetelrooy) say similar. Ronaldo’s footwork, dribbling, close ball control, the amount of breathtaking moments, he’s on another level completely, but I now also put him ahead of Messi as he had more tools in the bag, especially rapid speed.

He’s the greatest I’ve seen, and the fella that uploaded the video has reminded me of that.
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But can he play left back?
Cos that's where BFS would have had him.
 

His prime was so short though. After his cruciate injury whilst he was still a great player he wasn’t what he was. Messi stayed at world class prime peak between 2008-2015 and since then has adapted his game to stay world class. Cristiano Ronaldo the same. Perhaps they have the advantage of modern techniques to prolong their peaks but other players have burned brightly then gone out.

For me it’s still Zidane though. He hasn’t got the stats that people pore over now but put him in a big game with the greatest players of his time and he’d just dominate the whole game. Even in 2006 when he was close to retirement he led the midfields of Spain Brazil and Italy a merry dance which was something when you consider the type of players they had back then.
 
Is my favourite ever non Everton player and always will be.

Easily the most unplayable player of my generation, had absolutely everything to a world class level.

The standing ovation he got from Old Trafford says it all.
 

OG Ronaldo's hat-trick v United at Old Trafford is always worth a mention. He got a standing ovation from everyone when subbed which speaks volumes. That said, I wouldn't call him the greatest.
 
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His prime was so short though. After his cruciate injury whilst he was still a great player he wasn’t what he was. Messi stayed at world class prime peak between 2008-2015 and since then has adapted his game to stay world class. Cristiano Ronaldo the same. Perhaps they have the advantage of modern techniques to prolong their peaks but other players have burned brightly then gone out.

For me it’s still Zidane though. He hasn’t got the stats that people pore over now but put him in a big game with the greatest players of his time and he’d just dominate the whole game. Even in 2006 when he was close to retirement he led the midfields of Spain Brazil and Italy a merry dance which was something when you consider the type of players they had back then.
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Longevity is definitely something to consider, especially when comparing Messi/C.Ronaldo to greats of the past.

For example, I don't think I've seen anyone pull as far ahead of the pack as Ronaldinho did in the mid-00s, but it was such a brief spell that it's hard to make a case for him. He really was something else, though.
 
No doubt he was a genuine world class player, one of the best ever, but it raises the question of what makes the best player. Is it close ball skills, is it passing range and vision, is it scoring goals, is it the ability to read the play and make a vital interception?
Is it really possible to declare a best player out of Ronaldo, Messi, Maradona, Zidane, Maldini? They are all so different and all were the best (or one of the best depending on your opinion) at what they did.

And can you compare the skills of Messi with all the current training and equipment available to Pele who didn’t have the modern stuff, but had much more physical defenders to deal with.
 

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