Ronald Koeman discussion

Khalekan · January 13, 2017

Moomin said:
Leicester to Cheshire, not a million miles is it. Plus, he's always away watching games around the country and Europe.

He left for the money. Personally, I'm not fussed. To get the best talent you need to flash the cash.

@vagant59 thinks Steve is not concerned with monetary gain, that's why he left his job of assistant manager to the Champions of England before entering the champions league of Europe.

He really had his eye on the seventh place trophy.

And it wasn't as if Leicester had a chance of winning the CL or even mounting a challenge in the EPL again.

He knew that more than most.

His choice was a return to mundanity or take Mr. Mo's shilling.

A no brainer :dance:

Zezti · January 13, 2017

Moomin said:
Koeman will do a good job and improve us, same with Walsh.

Nope. No evidence. Can't compare this season to last season because reasons. Players aren't at fault. We were held to ransom for an average midfielder and el Bob was something special.

granter79 · January 13, 2017

Zezti said:
Nope. No evidence. Can't compare this season to last season because reasons. Players aren't at fault. We were held to ransom for an average midfielder and el Bob was something special.

All makes sense.

kenada_blue · January 13, 2017

rochdaleblue said:
Where has he fallen out with MS? Schnerderlein admitted in his interview on the OS, that he kept in contact with koeman throughout his time at United and he has just committed himself to playing under koeman again. That doesn't strike me as someone who fell out with koeman.

Don't have to fall out with a manager if you get your transfer, which they all did.

Moomin · January 13, 2017

Zezti said:
Nope. No evidence. Can't compare this season to last season because reasons. Players aren't at fault. We were held to ransom for an average midfielder and el Bob was something special.

You've proved you can't debate @davek by taking a cheap shot at him.

When you have the testicular fortitude to try and discuss the topic of Koeman come back instead of trying to WUM @davek

Eggsyblueskin · January 13, 2017

Moomin said:
Leicester to Cheshire, not a million miles is it. Plus, he's always away watching games around the country and Europe.

He left for the money. Personally, I'm not fussed. To get the best talent you need to flash the cash.

@vagant59 thinks Steve is not concerned with monetary gain, that's why he left his job of assistant manager to the Champions of England before entering the champions league of Europe.

He really had his eye on the seventh place trophy.

While I agree the money is important I think you have allow it's also a massive promotion for Walsh . He has gone from being one of the assistant managers at Leicester to essentially running the entire footballing side of Everton. He is responsible for everything from youth teams to recruitment for the first team. When Koeman goes he will almost certainly be the one who sources and recommends his replacement. If you factor in Moshiris apparent ambition for this 'project' it has to be tempting even without the money ( although admittedly the money helps).

Moomin · January 13, 2017

Eggsyblueskin said:
While I agree the money is important I think you have allow it's also a massive promotion for Walsh . He has gone from being one of the assistant managers at Leicester to essentially running the entire footballing side of Everton. He is responsible for everything from youth teams to recruitment for the first team. When Koeman goes he will almost certainly be the one who sources and recommends his replacement. If you factor in Moshiris apparent ambition for this 'project' it has to be tempting even without the money ( although admittedly the money helps).

Totally agree with what you say, I said earlier the same that Walsh will pick the next manager.

Moomin said:
I could be wrong, just the impression I get from him. He's ambitious, if he does a good job and a club like Arsenal come knocking he will treat us like he treated Southampton and be off.

So the next appointment is vital to carry on the good work, and I'm sure that will be one of Steve Walsh's tasks to have a list of candidates to replace him.

vagant59 · January 13, 2017

Moomin said:
Good point, apologies for letting you to take off topic.

Koeman will do a good job and improve us, same with Walsh.

You maybe able to read ,but you are obviously struggling understanding what you have read

MikeH72 · January 13, 2017

Zezti said:
Nope. No evidence. Can't compare this season to last season because reasons. Players aren't at fault. We were held to ransom for an average midfielder and el Bob was something special.

Tears

MikeH72 · January 13, 2017

Moomin said:
You've proved you can't debate @davek by taking a cheap shot at him.

When you have the testicular fortitude to try and discuss the topic of Koeman come back instead of trying to WUM @davek

You appear to be implying Day Vek will listen to actual debate and rational discussion.

Who's_up_for_cumpkins? · January 13, 2017

Gotta say been out on the piss after work so only just picking up the threads from the press conference, but I'm liking Koemans apparent bluntness. Despite his occasionally dodgy tactics & team selection (possibly having to work with what he has) he's making a concerted effort to chase out the garbage in our squad.

Moomin · January 13, 2017

vagant59 said:
You maybe able to read ,but you are obviously struggling understanding what you have read

Cheers.

I'll leave him be lads.

I know, he's a bed wetter who loved Martinez and hates Koeman.

Just be quiet and he'll go away.

davek · January 13, 2017

Efcjake said:
Yeah but it isn't exactly baseless.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verton-standards-slipped-last-season-11895601

Everton standards slipped last season admits Barry

Barry said: “The standards of the players were, for me, slightly slipping last season, on and off the pitch.

“If standards are slipping off the pitch it can impact on your form on the pitch and the whole team was losing that level that is expected to compete at the top end of the Premier League. The manager doesn’t want to come across as some sort of headmaster but he has been quite keen to let anybody know if they go underneath the standards expected. That is good for everyone."

He added: “It was things like time-keeping, dress codes, training everything really. For example, this morning, a team was losing quite heavily at head tennis and he wanted to know why. He doesn’t want anyone losing their focus and with good reason. One team shouldn’t be getting beat so heavily at anything within the club, whether it’s head tennis, five-a-side or on a Saturday.

“The confidence and everything had gone last season and things were maybe going away from what was expected. Confidence had gone on the pitch, results weren’t going the right way and there was a lot of unrest with the fans. It is easy for players sometimes to get dragged along with that and all of a sudden they are being dragged along and the standards are slipping. I think you could tell from some of the performances last season that was creeping in.”

Well wasn't he supposed to be coming in and changing all that? So he failed to get on top of it and now we face a situation where all the squad has to be replaced. That wasn't the plan was it?

Tigger · January 13, 2017

mikeh72 said:
You appear to be implying Day Vek will listen to actual debate and rational discussion.

My eyes!

thebluenosebolt · January 13, 2017

davek said:
Well wasn't he supposed to be coming in and changing all that? So he failed to get on top of it and now we face a situation where all the squad has to be replaced. That wasn't the plan was it?

You do speak with a wise finger, No one (including me) wants to read it though. You can't possibly talk trash about the next manager (our next.... saviour) without a wagging finger wiggled your way.

Evertonians (we) are so desperate for suck sess, We will give anyone a go to prove themselves....but by hook or by crook will be chased out of Goodison if that isnt delivered by 2017 summer window...at the latest. Europa league ...or NEXT !!!
Moyes already had us at this point 4 years ago....and he is now deemed a stinky ginge.