Relegation 2022/23

[LucBesson]

It's like when Newcastle went down (the first time), got turned over by the likes of Scunthorpe because they were bang up for it scalping 'the big club'. We'd meet the same sort of resistance, cup final every week for teams like Preston.

Quality shone through in the end though and they came up first time of asking (both times).

Not denying that there wouldn't be a few embarrassing nights along the way, but honestly think we would bounce straight back.

Players we deem not good enough now would be among the best in their position in the Championship. Michael Keane a good example.

 

[degsy]

If they got all results right they would be multi millionaires. They are as clueless as everyone else

This.
John Moores made literally millions - back when a million was worth a 'kin shed load more than it is now,
based on that very premise.

 

[degsy]

These last few pages is just davek trying to get some optimism into the fanbase. Fair play.

I agree with him, we can still get out of this!!!!

It ain't over till it's over - one game at a time

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Quality shone through in the end though and they came up first time of asking (both times).

Not denying that there wouldn't be a few embarrassing nights along the way, but honestly think we would bounce straight back.

Players we deem not good enough now would be among the best in their position in the Championship. Michael Keane a good example.

Agree with this. Every league has “big scalps” and yeah occasionally they get turned over by a lesser team that’s bang up for it, but ultimately the big scalps like Man City still finish towards the top of the table because they are better.

Over the course of the season it’s simply about quality, there’s no guarantee we’d bounce straight back but even after a few sales to balance the books we should still have the quality to at least compete at the top end of the division.

 

[sd_1992]

Spot on. Better teams than us have gone down and not bounced right back; some not for many years. We'll be the "big scalp" in the second division, every team will want to beat us and probably try that little bit harder than with other fixtures.

There is still a lot of physical and mental fragility in this side, I wonder how many players will be ready for the fight one level down. Then add in an incompetent board who don't know what they're doing at the best of times in a league they have no experience of and it is not a pretty picture as some may make out.

When we go down we will stay down. Like you say there is no one in this squad who will cope with the aggression in the championship. Just going to be another team playing hoofball on the way to league one.

 

[Johnnytotal]

When we go down we will stay down. Like you say there is no one in this squad who will cope with the aggression in the championship. Just going to be another team playing hoofball on the way to league one.

Utter drivel.

 

[Winslow89]

Quality shone through in the end though and they came up first time of asking (both times).

Not denying that there wouldn't be a few embarrassing nights along the way, but honestly think we would bounce straight back.

Players we deem not good enough now would be among the best in their position in the Championship. Michael Keane a good example.

I think if you look at where the owner is right now - Gordon sold, no investment. Moise Kean sold, no investment (or proactive investment knowing that Kean was going to make £25m). Lack of investment in January in totality, despite an awful outlook. A stadium that isn't fully financed and has money to break ground/build up to a certain point but lacks the funds to finalise the build without outside investment.

I'd be very, very surprised if Moshiri wasn't currently in a place whereby he's recouping as much of the lost investment as possible before getting out via an alternative investor.

Adding that to the list of players who'd even struggle with the physical demands of the Championship whether that's fitness and the fact the games come thick and fast or just general physicality. That list is very, very long.

I think if we go down, we stay down for at least 3-5 years as a rebuild. The squad would be firesold to recoup those losses so it'd look a lot different than it does today.

 

[jazzy]

I think if you look at where the owner is right now - Gordon sold, no investment. Moise Kean sold, no investment (or proactive investment knowing that Kean was going to make £25m). Lack of investment in January in totality, despite an awful outlook. A stadium that isn't fully financed and has money to break ground/build up to a certain point but lacks the funds to finalise the build without outside investment.

I'd be very, very surprised if Moshiri wasn't currently in a place whereby he's recouping as much of the lost investment as possible before getting out via an alternative investor.

Adding that to the list of players who'd even struggle with the physical demands of the Championship whether that's fitness and the fact the games come thick and fast or just general physicality. That list is very, very long.

I think if we go down, we stay down for at least 3-5 years as a rebuild. The squad would be firesold to recoup those losses so it'd look a lot different than it does today.

I respectfully disagree.
Yes we would see sales and out of contract players leaving - Mina , Pickford , Coleman , Onana , Coady , Calvert Lewin , Vinagre spring to mind.
That reduces the wage bill considerably and together with the sales of Kean and Gordon probably brings in about £180 million.
Buy a decent keeper for £10m , bring back Branthwaite , Dobbin and Cannon, buy a couple of combative midfielders and a Gyckores ,( say £80 m tops ) give Price and Mills game time and we should have a squad more than capable of coming straight back up, saved a chunk of wages and banked £100 m.
Easy job Thelwells got lol

 

[PITA]

What makes you think they'd win Championship games by this type of margin?

Fixed that for you.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I think if you look at where the owner is right now - Gordon sold, no investment. Moise Kean sold, no investment (or proactive investment knowing that Kean was going to make £25m). Lack of investment in January in totality, despite an awful outlook. A stadium that isn't fully financed and has money to break ground/build up to a certain point but lacks the funds to finalise the build without outside investment.

I'd be very, very surprised if Moshiri wasn't currently in a place whereby he's recouping as much of the lost investment as possible before getting out via an alternative investor.

Adding that to the list of players who'd even struggle with the physical demands of the Championship whether that's fitness and the fact the games come thick and fast or just general physicality. That list is very, very long.

I think if we go down, we stay down for at least 3-5 years as a rebuild. The squad would be firesold to recoup those losses so it'd look a lot different than it does today.

You expect the whole squad to be sold, so how do you know the players would be unable to cope with the Championship, without knowing who any of those players would be? All we really know about any hypothetical Championship squad is we'll sell some players and replace them with some other players.

 

[Swartzy]

It's like when Newcastle went down (the first time), got turned over by the likes of Scunthorpe because they were bang up for it scalping 'the big club'. We'd meet the same sort of resistance, cup final every week for teams like Preston.

Sounds like a happy place, that championship..
And the Relegation thread just rolls on..

Nah, With good use of the loan system ( for a change ) a couple of young 'hungry' Player signings and the experience we already have, You would expect over the season that would prove too much overall, and at worst have us in the play offs..
it would be a long tough season, but quality/experience normally shines through in the end. ( I know, quality and everton don't really fit in the same sentence anymore ) but this is the championship. We would just need prolific strikers.. Once again!!

 

[sd_1992]

Utter drivel.

Based on what exactly? How well this team deals with pressure? Or being pressed? Or how well it consistently does against even second string championship sides in cup games?

We have next to no chance of coming up again if we go down. The board aren’t going to magically become competent overnight and the manager we have isn’t going to have us playing the style of football that gets teams out of the championship these days.

 

[LucBesson]

I think if you look at where the owner is right now - Gordon sold, no investment. Moise Kean sold, no investment (or proactive investment knowing that Kean was going to make £25m). Lack of investment in January in totality, despite an awful outlook. A stadium that isn't fully financed and has money to break ground/build up to a certain point but lacks the funds to finalise the build without outside investment.

I'd be very, very surprised if Moshiri wasn't currently in a place whereby he's recouping as much of the lost investment as possible before getting out via an alternative investor.

Adding that to the list of players who'd even struggle with the physical demands of the Championship whether that's fitness and the fact the games come thick and fast or just general physicality. That list is very, very long.

I think if we go down, we stay down for at least 3-5 years as a rebuild. The squad would be firesold to recoup those losses so it'd look a lot different than it does today.

Burnley sold McNeill, Collins, Cornet and Pope. They brought in a host of replacements for half the price and now they're now, what, 18 points clear of third is it?

Fair to be cynical that our recruitment wouldn't be up the task given our recent track record but we'd have the advantage of being the biggest name in the division. You could literally just pluck the best player from every Championship side who failed in this year's play-offs, for instance. And while a firesale is inevitable I'd be relatively confident at keeping a handful of 'Premier League standard' players.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Burnley sold McNeill, Collins, Cornet and Pope. They brought in a host of replacements for half the price and now they're now, what, 18 points clear of third is it?

Fair to be cynical that our recruitment wouldn't be up the task given our recent track record but we'd have the advantage of being the biggest name in the division. You could literally just pluck the best player from every Championship side who failed in this year's play-offs, for instance. And while a firesale is inevitable I'd be relatively confident at keeping a handful of 'Premier League standard' players.

They also employed a younger more progressive manager than their previous incumbent.

 

[Saint Domingo]

They also employed a younger more progressive manager than their previous incumbent.

Been down that road a few times recently. A team needs a good manager that fits. Being young or progressive doesn’t have anything to do with it. Lampard was young and progressive but turned out to be not very good. When Kompany has Burnley qualifying for Europe then maybe he’ll replace Dyche as their best ever manager.