Leighton Staines
Player Valuation: £225k
Tell you what I cannot be arsed with this Derby next week
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Point away to bottom of the league? We had been under the cosh for a very long period. We are lucky to have gotten a point.
formerly manx toffee
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Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
It probably in a way was better that we played the way we did today,so we didnt go in over confident to the derby,that performance should mean that we buck up our ideas and play a lot better next game,quite happy with a point even though off course i wanted 3,we've had 5 away games and got 8 points think that is pretty decent,we are not going to play well every game and the games we dont play well in its better to get a point or more than none
Leighton Staines
Player Valuation: £225k
I hate the games on a good day, nevermind missing 3 of our best players
dbignall85
Player Valuation: £2.5m
They beat Liverpool, Arsenal, Swansea, Spurs and Stoke at home this calendar year, they are much better than 20th.
formerly manx toffee
Player Valuation: £70m
But you're blue mate. Being blue is what it is...
Leighton Staines
Player Valuation: £225k
True, true, just take it on the chin whatever happens
ToxtethBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Decent point all things considered. I thought we would have went on to win it if Pienaar had stayed on the pitch. Shame really, but we are still in a good position. I wasn't sure about Victor coming into the side today, he's done well this season but I think we needed to bring more of a midfielder into the side (Naismith on the right, Pienaar centrally) and keep our shape with Gibson and Fellaini out. He can do a job outwide but he's playing higher up the pitch, as does Mirallas, and the fullbacks got exposed a bit. The midfield three had too much to do and weren't dominant enough. Not that it was a negative change from Moyes, I just thought it left us a bit open and contributed to the end to end nature of the game.
Just skimmed through this match thread and I can't believe the abuse dished out to our players by our own supporters whenever one of them makes a mistake. Can understand people not being happy but most of it is way OTT. The abuse Pienaar received for being sent off for NOT committing a foul is a disgrace. Then we have one poster saying he is not going to watch the derby next week and that we should concede defeat now. What kind of support and attitude is that ? It would drive you to despair that some people can't accept that we just can't turn up and be at our best every game and turn the opposition over. That's football ffs and it always was and always will be like that.
On the game yeah a very average performance so will take a point. Thought we started the 2nd half well and were unlucky not to take the lead, then defended well when we were reduced to 10. The squad is being stretched now by injuries and suspensions and it's showing. Take the point, keep the unbeaten run going, move on, and prepare for battle against the orcs next weekend. Come on you Blues.
formerly manx toffee
Player Valuation: £70m
You are too balanced to fit in here. Are you even mildly bi-polar ?
toffeeben15
Player Valuation: £8m
I dont think it was much down to the players but more down to the size of the pitch . It wasn't big enough for our style of player by that I mean using the wings . Today we really could of done with Fellaini to dominate the centre as we couldn't go wide and we didn't have tht sort of powering the middle . This shows that we need to adapt to different styles of pitches to get top 4
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
1) We looked disorganised. We never looked comfortable defensively.
2) We seem to be changing things around too much. One minute Pienaar was alongside Neville, Mirallas was on the left and Osman was behind Jelavic. The next thing Pienaar was on the left and Mirallas was in the hole. It unsettles us more than it unsettles them.
3) Jelavic was far too isolated. It's no good lumping the ball forward for him to chase, so we should have given Mirallas the freedom to carry the ball up to him on the break.
4) Neville and Osman don't make tackles. They just jockey the opposition and let them run through our midfield.
5) Vic is never a wideman. Naismith did some intelligent things when he came on and slotted in instantly but he lacks a turn of pace.
6) Piennar literally never touched his opponent for his second yellow. Hopefully we'll win an appeal and he'll be available for the derby. He did deserve to go though and he hasn't quite been at his best recently.
7) Moyes was stuck for substitute options. Pienaar's dismissal aside the only players he could consider bringing off were Anichebe and Osman. It would have been a risk to put Oviedo or Gueye on but maybe he could have moved Naismith inside for Ossie and tried one of them down the wing in the closing stages.
8) If we were a Champions League club that would be the sort of game where we would have taken 3 points. We really didn't create much though and they should have had a penalty for Coleman's foul, so we have to be content with a point.
2) We seem to be changing things around too much. One minute Pienaar was alongside Neville, Mirallas was on the left and Osman was behind Jelavic. The next thing Pienaar was on the left and Mirallas was in the hole. It unsettles us more than it unsettles them.
3) Jelavic was far too isolated. It's no good lumping the ball forward for him to chase, so we should have given Mirallas the freedom to carry the ball up to him on the break.
4) Neville and Osman don't make tackles. They just jockey the opposition and let them run through our midfield.
5) Vic is never a wideman. Naismith did some intelligent things when he came on and slotted in instantly but he lacks a turn of pace.
6) Piennar literally never touched his opponent for his second yellow. Hopefully we'll win an appeal and he'll be available for the derby. He did deserve to go though and he hasn't quite been at his best recently.
7) Moyes was stuck for substitute options. Pienaar's dismissal aside the only players he could consider bringing off were Anichebe and Osman. It would have been a risk to put Oviedo or Gueye on but maybe he could have moved Naismith inside for Ossie and tried one of them down the wing in the closing stages.
8) If we were a Champions League club that would be the sort of game where we would have taken 3 points. We really didn't create much though and they should have had a penalty for Coleman's foul, so we have to be content with a point.
nigelcoyb
Player Valuation: £25m
At least this year we'll be blown out the cups and fabricate amazing hard luck stories for the derby games BUT...... be a more entertaining 7th, 8th, 9th or whatever best of the rest is these days.
The upward curve from mediocrity to significant non- entities is stratospheric baby.
The upward curve from mediocrity to significant non- entities is stratospheric baby.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
A good point on a so-so day with a very poor referee when we were never going to play like we can do given the set up of Osman and Neville in the centre of midfield.
I can tell you that QPR (Hughes aside) were delighted with the point.
Couple of mildly interesting pics from the day taken on my phone - who can you spot in the crowd
I can tell you that QPR (Hughes aside) were delighted with the point.
Couple of mildly interesting pics from the day taken on my phone - who can you spot in the crowd
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