Promoting youth to the first team

Zatara · July 12, 2015

Moyes
Hibbert / Coleman / Osman / Rodwell / Rooney /Anichebe / Vaughan

= 7 players in 10 years. Also, which younger players under 21 did he sign for the first eleven?

Martinez
Garbutt / Galloway / Browning / Stones / Barkley + signed Besic / Lukaku / Deulofeu / Lukaku.

5+4 in two years and more this season i think.

The thing is though, were there really any players available from the youth team other than the ones listed who had a chance of making the first team for Moyes?

Moyes went mostly for players who would improve once they joined the club with higher coaching and fitness levels whereas it seems Martinez prefers to spend on younger players with a lot of potential.

Zatara · July 12, 2015

Think the only one he signed was Stones and the youth team brought in Garbutt. Playing players like Barkley seemed very random.

tonka1878 said:
You don't win anything with kid's.

Also I think Martinez has had a better group of youngsters to choose from but that is down to the foundation laid by Moyes.

ilikecheese · July 12, 2015

sageyefc said:
Too early to compare first team players but i prefer the way the youth are handled now with getting loans

The Garbutt situation was handled perfectly.

tonka1878 · July 12, 2015

I meant more in the way he built Finch Farm and the added focus on youth.

Zatara said:
Think the only one he signed was Stones and the youth team brought in Garbutt. Playing players like Barkley seemed very random.

sageyefc · July 12, 2015

tonka1878 said:
I meant more in the way he built Finch Farm and the added focus on youth.

From sheedys own mouth, moyes wasnt too interested in the youth and barely attended any youth games

Tigger · July 12, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
Cant wait to sack this clown so we can get away from the whole Moyes or Martinez debate.

Ye so we can have a Moyes, Martinez or New manager debate, love a three way

griffla · July 12, 2015

Moyes helped design finch farm so youth trained alongside the 1st team, the players breaking through now are the first batch to have come all the way through our system. He was a bit of a knob at the end but if we get a 'golden generation' of youth in next few years then thats prob more down to Moyes than anyone

sageyefc · July 12, 2015

griffla said:
Moyes helped design finch farm so youth trained alongside the 1st team, the players breaking through now are the first batch to have come all the way through our system. He was a bit of a knob at the end but if we get a 'golden generation' of youth in next few years then thats prob more down to Moyes than anyone

BS its down to the excellent work our youth coaches do.

Deco · July 12, 2015

Close voting.. lol

LinekersLegs · July 12, 2015

sageyefc said:
BS its down to the excellent work our youth coaches do.

But tbf Moyes recruited a lot of those youth coaches and gave them some of his very limited budget to go set up scouting networks in places like Manchester.

tonka1878 · July 12, 2015

sageyefc said:
From sheedys own mouth, moyes wasnt too interested in the youth and barely attended any youth games

Did Moyes give Sheedy the job?

sageyefc · July 12, 2015

tonka1878 said:
Did Moyes give Sheedy the job?

Dont know but sounded like sheedy had beef with him when he left

tonka1878 · July 12, 2015

sageyefc said:
Dont know but sounded like sheedy had beef with him when he left

Well he did, and it was probably because he was a bit of an arse but that's irrelevant when discussing his impact on our youth development.

sageyefc · July 12, 2015

tonka1878 said:
Well he did, and it was probably because he was a bit of an arse but that's irrelevant when discussing his impact on our youth development.

And like he said, moyes didnt pay much attention. The youth teams played an entire different style and formations than what moyes did