Oumar Niasse

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Papa Shango said:
Dont be daft, the game is dead at 3-0. The miss galvanized them. Whilst our defence was a massive problem last season it does get ignored that we had loads of chances to kill games off throughout the season and missed them.

To blame one player is incredibly simplistic.
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You are wrong. We were still battering them after the penalty miss, they were beaten. Lennon was playing like two players, such was his energy. Then when big Oumar came on for him we were effectively down to 9 men. That substitution alone unquestionably cost us the game, I was there and watching events unfold in front of my face. Leave Lennon on and we'd have easily closed the game out
 
mikeh72 said:
You are wrong. We were still battering them after the penalty miss, they were beaten. Lennon was playing like two players, such was his energy. Then when big Oumar came on for him we were effectively down to 9 men. That substitution alone unquestionably cost us the game, I was there and watching events unfold in front of my face. Leave Lennon on and we'd have easily closed the game out
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How can I be wrong? It's a variable where neither of us know what may have happened.
 
Mountfield1985 said:
The game was dead at 2-0. We consolidated for a good 10/15 minutes after the pen miss but then the subsitution cost us our shape, our momentum and the game. It was the worst i've ever seen in an Everton match by some distance. Throwing a 2 goal lead and then blaming Lukaku, who'd given you the 2 goal lead, is incredibly simplistic. It shouldn't have mattered.

And I reserve the right to always be daft about Oumar Niasse. He's the funniest player in our history and I won't have anyone tell me otherwise. If he ever scores a single goal for the blues I will hire a function room. DJ, full spread, the lot.
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I didnt blame Lukaku! It could have been anyone who missed the pen. I dont just blame one player for defeats (well maybe Tim Howard against palace a few seasons ago...)

People just cant wait to jump all over the fella. He has barely played!
 
mikeh72 said:
"The miss galvanised them" is definitely wrong because we all saw with our own eyes that it did not
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Its basic stuff. They get a second chance after the game looked dead and pushed on.

If you want to single out one player (its not like he subbed himself on is it?) then good for you.
 
Papa Shango said:
Its basic stuff. They get a second chance after the game looked dead and pushed on.

If you want to single out one player (its not like he subbed himself on is it?) then good for you.
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I'm actually blaming the manager and have been ever since I sat there and watched the sub happen. The single worst tactical decision I've ever seen at an Everton match
 
Aberblue said:
Niasse joined us in January. He'd apparently played in Russia until December, so he'd missed at most a few weeks. How long exactly does it take for a professional sportsman to regain fitness? Far from being "forced into the first team" Niasse didn't even appear on the bench until late February, when he had five minutes or so against a weakened Bournemouth team with us 2 - 0 up. A handful more substitute appearances followed, mostly of a few minutes' duration, before making his full debut at the end of April. In these admittedly brief appearances, Niasse has shown absolutely nothing to justify the huge fee he cost.

So, to sum up; Martinez spent a fortune on a player who was so drastically unfit that it would take months to get him to speed, that is, so unfit it would have precluded him passing a medical; or one who just doesn't have it in him to play football at Premier League level.
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4th December 2015 played his last game for lokomotiv Moscow - he scored in a 2-2 draw at home to Ural Oblast

1st February 2016 (if ever a signing screamed of DESPERATE its one who is signed on the last day of the window for a huge fee) - he signed for everton fc

non football playing time = 8 weeks + 3 days

on top of that he is joining a much more competitive league, much higher tempo of play and what many consider one of the hardest leagues to join and get accustomed to.

he made his first appearance against Bournemouth on 20th February 2016 - 20 days after he signed

now are you telling me that he was fully fit and 100% ready for the prem in the space of 20 days - time in which he would have had to sort out his accommodation, his surroundings, his new team mates etc.

I am not going to spew hate on a player when the blame rests solely on Martinez

I believe under koeman he will be a different and much improved player because he will have now had time to adjust and adapt and have a full pre-season behind him
 
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RomanReigns said:
4th December 2015 played his last game for lokomotiv Moscow - he scored in a 2-2 draw at home to Ural Oblast

1st February 2016 (if ever a signing screamed of DESPERATE its one who is signed on the last day of the window for a huge fee) - he signed for everton fc

non football playing time = 8 weeks + 3 days

on top of that he is joining a much more competitive league, much higher tempo of play and what many consider one of the hardest leagues to join and get accustomed to.

he made his first appearance against Bournemouth on 20th February 2016 - 20 days after he signed

now are you telling me that he was fully fit and 100% ready for the prem in the space of 20 days - time in which he would have had to sort out his accommodation, his surroundings, his new team mates etc.

I am not going to spew hate on a player when the blame rests solely on Martinez

I believe under koeman he will be a different and much improved player because he will have now had time to adjust and adapt and have a full pre-season behind him
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Well for starters he didn't have to sort out his accomodation, and his new surroundings was probably made a little bit easier by the fact his wife already lived in Manchester and had done for some time, so if anything he had it way easier than most players moving into the country will do from abroad, - home already sorted, family already settled etc

How do you explain the myseterious ncase that he was deemed by Martinez to only be 65% fit, at a time when his former team had been playing after the winter break a fair few games already, yet despite his 'lack of fitness' he was never once used in a under 21 game, no behind closed doors friendly was arranged to get him more minutes, and on top of that the club then point out a reason for not featuring him was a pre - existing 'Wrist' injury, one that he had played with perfectly fine all season in Russia mind you, but we deemed was so urgent he needed surgery and cited it as a reason for his lack of playing time

He was, is and will forever be a poor 'footballer' mate, thankfully your shours about him being better after a full pre seaosn look a bit moot as Koeman apparently saw enough in 45 minutes and a few days of trainign to decide he wants him shipped off
 
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