NFL 2022 Season
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I'd be gobsmacked tbh
He won't want to go out like this. And there are like 55m reasons he might want to play next year.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
Well, he didnt have Mahomes thats for sure.....dont think the likes of Steve DeBerg, Dave Krieg, and Elvis Grbac were ever going to take him very far. OTOH he let Rich Gannon go which as we know was a huge mistake.Marty nods. Did you miss the years of me saying that Moyes is basically Marty?
When I say every year, I mean in the Mahomes era which is in its 5th year so a large enough sample size. Every year he has had to play a first placed schedule, so no he has not had it easy. But some people wanted to change the goalposts to suit their argument by extending it to every game the club has played in its in entire history.
On another note, with a win against the Bengals, Mahomes becomes the only QB in history to have a .800 winning percentage.
Dave Krieg - the human Pez dispenser. "don't hold it so long, Da... Too late."
Steve deBerg - to quarterbacking what Chris de Burgh is to music (it's the longevity bonus).
Elvis Grbac - he's not the King.
We'll be here all week, don't forget your waitress.
Rich Gannon was a mistake for about a year or two. Other than that, they were right to let him go. The whole point is that year or two, though. That's what makes us crazy. Mahomes is a special talent and he fits what Andy does really well. Enjoy it.
He hasn't this year. Proved that on this very thread yesterday - was it ten opponents with losing records?
CBA to go back and check the SOS for the Chiefs' previous five seasons, but given your track record I wouldn't be surprised if you're wrong.
Kansas City has a great head coach, the league's best TE, an OL most clubs would happily trade theirs in for and a great D.... I find it hilarious that you consistently deny all of that because in your head it somehow diminishes Mahomes.
By the way, should Mahomes achieve that .800 winning percentage everyone will rightly acknowledge it. It would be quite the accolade... and if he can somehow maintain it for the duration of his career then that would be incredible. Utterly incredible.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
A first placed schedule means the schedule that is designated for the teams that win their division. The games are actually planned out well in advance based on that.
Unless you think the Chiefs havent won their division for the last 5 years, which I can assure you they have.
I thought the Saints would be good this year. They're horrid. And we don't have any 1st round pick because of the Eagles pick swap. And we have 3 bad QBs. At least we can have no reasonable expectation for next year; give Allen another year to learn to to HC and rebuild the squad for 2 years in the future. Who Dat? (Who Dat gonna be on dey roster in 2 years? Who Dat !?!)
bit unlucky on that 4th & goal with 6mins + on the clock how that 49ers D lineman wasn’t call offside i don’t know, if you watch the reply the LJ is looking right along the line.
That's worlds apart from your earlier claims that the Chiefs' schedule is "the hardest in history".
You constantly make outlandishly silly claims and get comprehensively corrected, then you either ignore the subject entirely (as you have just done yet again - look at the post you quoted) or claim you said something substantially different.
Examples:
"Mahomes is the most successful QB in history" - Response: no, he's got 1 ring and at least a dozen other QBs have 2 or more. One has 7 and he's still playing. You just ignored it.
"Burrow can't scramble, he lacks the mobility to play in the NFL" - that evening Burrow scrambles repeatedly for gains, making multiple first downs, beats a very good Titans team. - You ignore it.
"The Chiefs have the toughest schedule in history" - response: no, they don't. Ten of their 17 regular season opponents will finish with losing records. - Your reply: no, I meant they have a first-placed schedule. (Of course they do. They came first last year. Doesn't mean that THIS year's opponents will be tough.)
"The Chiefs always post a winning regular season record." - response: are you sure? They were set up in 1960 and have made the playoffs 24 times. - Your reply: "when I say always, I obviously only mean in the last six years."
Go into politics mate. You're a natural.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
the only point I would accept there is Burrow is a better mover than I gave him credit for. I called him immobile and he clearly isnt so I stand corrected.
As for the rest, you have made stuff up there - I never said Mahomes was the most successful qb in history, I said he was the best. You are so totally focussed on rings and total wins and total yards that you ignore the fact that his overall skill set is like nothing we have ever seen before.
yeah, but this isn't an unlucky season, except maybe concerning injuries, it's just a bad team season; good teams generate their own luck, and we don't see anything of that sort with this Saints team.
canuckblue
Player Valuation: £50m
You're right. There's something wrong with this year's Saints and I can't put my finger on it. Is it the new head coach, the quarterback situation or something else? Dumb penalties and turnovers have hurt, especially early in the season, but there's too much talent on this team for it to be a below-.500 squad.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
You definitely said chiefs had the hardest schedule in history which would even be laughable if you had said it before the season started never mind now
Great receivers can hide an average QB. A great QB can make average receivers shine (or can handle massive injuries at that position). Same but offensive line. Same when you consider losing good DBs vs DL talent. The only position the Saints seem to be ok is at LB, but only because they play nickel so much (which only stresses the bad DB situation more). A team can easily hide 1 or 2 weaknesses, this team has at least 6. As I see them:
1. No talent at QB
2. Insufficient DB depth/didn't properly replace losses in offseason
3. Not enough DL depth/talent
4. OL not built right/not replacing Armstead
5. WR injuries
6. New head coach
7. No NFL TEs on roster
maybe add to that:
8. Loomis so frequently aggressive and trading up causes a talent drain over a long period of time
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