New Everton Stadium Discussion

[radiostar]

There is no way will consider trying for Government funding. Council funding was always available but it's a toxic subject for both the council and the club now so there is no way this will happen either. Hope Usmanov can come up with the goods for Moshiri.

Yep, completely agree. Toxic is the word.

Usmanov or private funding , via sponsorships I reckon.

 

[tommye]

The Uncle Uzi Superdome will pay for itself in 14 weeks due to our ground-breaking naming rights deal.

Sit back, buckle up and enjoy the ride boys and girls.


Not long now...

 

[4737carlin]

BMD is the northern most dock within the WHS conservation zone.

Do you think this UNESCO stuff will hold us up? I cant see it stopping it but i can see it holding us up

 

[Brownie]

Interesting that 52k was being talked about as a capacity as far back as 2014, when other sites were being considered:

New Everton Stadium Discussion

Walton hall park, LFA to stay on the site, no tesco (or similar) involvement. That's impossible though. Board don't have enough money themselves, so without massive investment from either an outside party or a complete takeover we won't be going any where or even redeveloping Goodison any time...

www.grandoldteam.com

 

[matty1878]

The Uncle Uzi Superdome will pay for itself in 14 weeks due to our ground-breaking naming rights deal.

Sit back, buckle up and enjoy the ride boys and girls.


Not long now...

Hope so mate

 

[Jacko93]

Do you think this UNESCO stuff will hold us up? I cant see it stopping it but i can see it holding us up

I think you'd do well to take note of @Market trader

 

[degsy]

Since the start of our stadium move we have heard a lot about WHS and unisco and people saying we can't build a world class stadium there because of its WHS site .One thing puzzles me even thou it is next door how come they could build a sewage plant there ? But not a stadium that will bring the area back to life

a) Welcome to the world of QANGOs - on a global scale.
b) Because they can

 

[degsy]

Wikipedia - The dock was filled in 1989 with the site redeveloped as a sewage treatment plant and pumping station

inb4whs?

 

[Tel001]

Given this upcoming meeting today, maybe get emailing to the relevant MP's (template below).


Re today's meeting with Everton FC representatives:

Dear, ******* *****

I am a constituent of yours and I would like to see every opportunity given to the Liverpool Waters project for the redevelopment of Liverpool's north end dockland, including the proposed new Everton FC Bramley Moore Dock Stadium. The project will bring thousands of jobs to the Liverpool City Region and must be given priority over and above any other consideration, including any potential impact from the loss of UNESCO's World Heritage Status. I would like you as my MP to give it your support.

R.S.V.P.


Yours, ******** *******

<address>

luciana.berger.mp@parliament.uk

dan.carden.mp@parliament.uk

louise.ellman.mp@parliament.uk

stephentwiggmp.co.uk

bill.esterson.mp@parliament.uk

eaglem@parliament.uk

eaglea@parliament.uk

fieldf@parliament.uk

margaret.greenwood.mp@parliament.uk

alison.mcgovern.mp@parliament.uk

nice work Dave , genuinely nice work

 

[degsy]

BMD is the northern most dock within the WHS conservation zone.

I would suggest that BMD was the only site offered for the Stadium.All the rest will have 'proper' developments. All we are is a £650M hedge to screen the sewage works from the posh offices and apartments.

We'll be that real estate cliché..the worst house in the best street.

Meanwhile, up at the top end 'capts table' developments nearer to the city.

Mrs Bucket is on the phone "Well at least they're at the far end where nobody goes, Richard and I always go out when the rabble are about in case Daisy and Onslow drop in and it does screen one from what the you know what."

Sybil Fawlty, "Ooh I knooow."

 

[Magus]

As the site has WHS, by definition it is of national significance. Consequently, and in view of the extensive critism of the council's management of the site by UNESCO, it will be called in by the minister for review by the Planning Inspectorate. Just to be certain.

Well we shall see soon enough. BMD in itself is an unremarkable part of the wider dock system which they are interested in preserving, whilst the enterprise zone and the WHS would appear to be mutually exclusive designations if taken to their extremes. It seems obvious that LCC do not see the stadium proposal as a deal breaker in this regard, based on advice from their own planners (and I would also expect that both LCC and EFC have taken soundings from expert counsel).

 

[toffee66]

BMD is the northern most dock within the WHS conservation zone.

Not quite accurate. BMD is not in the WHS. It is the Northern most dock within the WHS buffer zone which is an area UNESCO designate to try to prevent the actual WHS zone being surrounded by undesirable developments. This link explains the nuances for another UK WHS:

Buffer Zone | Antonine Wall

www.antoninewall.org

Here is the UNESCO map for Liverpool:

https://whc.unesco.org/document/104897

 

[GwladysPhil]

I would suggest that BMD was the only site offered for the Stadium.All the rest will have 'proper' developments. All we are is a £650M hedge to screen the sewage works from the posh offices and apartments.

We'll be that real estate cliché..the worst house in the best street.

Meanwhile, up at the top end 'capts table' developments nearer to the city.

Mrs Bucket is on the phone "Well at least they're at the far end where nobody goes, Richard and I always go out when the rabble are about in case Daisy and Onslow drop in and it does screen one from what the you know what."

Sybil Fawlty, "Ooh I knooow."

Said this earlier too.

No chance up market flats office or space would build there.

We get a stadium, they get a block from the sewage works and for development to fire start from north.

Win win.

 

[mrb85]

This is the sort of sentiment repeatedly heard when there was initial talk of the development of London's Canary Wharf........

 

[davek]

So it's getting called in.