New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[bizzaro]

Then it is farcical we can't redevelop Goodison. Joke.

It actually means we absolutely need to get the stadium sorted. Or we will have all this money and no ability to spend it on the squad.

I now have ZERO confidence in the board or Elstone.

The comments were a disgrace in the ECHO.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It actually means we absolutely need to get the stadium sorted. Or we will have all this money and no ability to spend it on the squad.

I now have ZERO confidence in the board or Elstone.

The comments were a disgrace in the ECHO.

Exactly which part of what he said was a 'disgrace'? As I've read it and I can't see what all the pissing of pants is about tbh.

 

[bizzaro]

Exactly which part of what he said was a 'disgrace'? As I've read it and I can't see what all the pissing of pants is about tbh.

Check three to four pages back in this thread.

There are plenty of comments from multiple people highlighting the same comments.

 

[Tubey]

I'm just astonished that Everton get away with this kind of thing after so many years. They're incredibly lucky they have a fan base that has been hammered repeatedly to accept such low expectations.

 

[bizzaro]

I'm just astonished that Everton get away with this kind of thing after so many years. They're incredibly lucky they have a fan base that has been hammered repeatedly to accept such low expectations.

This below. How the hell...

Elstone said that 'the challenges ... in building a new stadium are different to other top flight clubs, who have successfully pursued their own lucrative moves from their original grounds.'

 

[Tubey]

Indeed. I just don't get it. Elstone in particular should have bit the dust after the annex fiasco. The fact he's still in a job amazes me.

Let's be honest - as soon as this "new stadium" stuff came up again, we all knew what was going to happen. We all knew funding wasn't in place. It's not a surprise this is now happening; but it does honestly still surprise me that our fan base in general is so passive as to just say "oh well, nevermind."

 

[GwladysBlue]

Exactly which part of what he said was a 'disgrace'? As I've read it and I can't see what all the pissing of pants is about tbh.

If you can't see it now, then you never will. The board love fans like you.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Check three to four pages back in this thread.

There are plenty of comments from multiple people highlighting the same comments.

I have done, I'm still unsure why everyone's heads are on fire.

All he's done is show his bean counter caution in terms of the whether any new build scheme will yield a net financial gain for a club who haven't got punters queuing round the block for ST's and then state they need to wring every last possible subsidy that might be available into the pot.

Personally I think Elstone's accountancy background makes him the wrong man to be leading the club, as we need a more commercially aware man at the helm imo. However, him being risk averse doesn't make him the devil incarnate

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

If you can't see it now, then you never will. The board love fans like you.

Pipe down super fan

 

[bizzaro]

Indeed. I just don't get it. Elstone in particular should have bit the dust after the annex fiasco. The fact he's still in a job amazes me.

Let's be honest - as soon as this "new stadium" stuff came up again, we all knew what was going to happen. We all knew funding wasn't in place. It's not a surprise this is now happening; but it does honestly still surprise me that our fan base in general is so passive as to just say "oh well, nevermind."

This is why I'm so up in arms. 'Funding isn't in place' - the tv money and the fact we are physically unable to spend it on more wages means its there.

Its a downright lie from the club to say that there is no money.

Its outrageous. Either Elstone is using this in some negotiating tactic with someone or he's just messing around with our fanbase.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

Exactly which part of what he said was a 'disgrace'? As I've read it and I can't see what all the pissing of pants is about tbh.

I think people are hacked off about the Arsenal comparison. Elstone mentioned the fact that they get £100 per season more now, from the stadium, than they did at Highbury. But they get 20,000 more people per game, because they had season ticket waiting lists, etc and they are based in London, so have more corporate opportunities and the naming rights of the stadium. So Elstone more or less said that we wouldn't make that kind of money because we don't have season ticket waiting lists and we are not based in London.

I think what Elstone was eluding to was that they need to get the naming rights secured, before they can move it forward, because no one really knows how much more we would make on a match day and from corporate. you could make an educated guess, based on other PL teams who have made a move to a new stadium, like Arsenal, Man City, Sunderland, etc, but their increased revenue has all been different, for different reasons.

No one should be writing off WHP yet, they haven't even released a design for it yet. When they do, that should bring the sponsors and investors. The challenge is getting that design right.

 

[Tubey]

I have done, I'm still unsure why everyone's heads are on fire.

All he's done is show his bean counter caution in terms of the whether any new build scheme will yield a net financial gain for a club who haven't got punters queuing round the block for ST's and then state they need to wring every last possible subsidy that might be available into the pot.

Personally I think Elstone's accountancy background makes him the wrong man to be leading the club, as we need a more commercially aware man at the helm imo. However, him being risk averse doesn't make him the devil incarnate

The problem mate is that he has said funding isn't in place, despite the hullabaloo about identifying a location, beginning work and so on.

Basically, it has all the hallmarks of a King's Dock situation again. Grand promises, no substance. No LCC funding nailed down, no naming partner, no club funding. Nothing.

 

[Azza]

I'm just astonished that Everton get away with this kind of thing after so many years. They're incredibly lucky they have a fan base that has been hammered repeatedly to accept such low expectations.

And I got negged the other day when I mentioned Everton mentality being mediocre.

We are owned by a bloke who runs an average theater production company. Another who's biggest business has gone bankrupt twice and has to swindle celebs into keeping it afloat in extremely dodgy methods, and another guy who is essentially a pensioner with some savings.

Then we have the man who runs the whole show appears to be completely inept in any business aspect, from all the proposed projects and developments to the truly awful sponsorship deals.

 

[bizzaro]

I have done, I'm still unsure why everyone's heads are on fire.

All he's done is show his bean counter caution in terms of the whether any new build scheme will yield a net financial gain for a club who haven't got punters queuing round the block for ST's and then state they need to wring every last possible subsidy that might be available into the pot.

Personally I think Elstone's accountancy background makes him the wrong man to be leading the club, as we need a more commercially aware man at the helm imo. However, him being risk averse doesn't make him the devil incarnate

Its getting to ridiculous levels. Its interfering with the long term health of the club.

You have to take some risk even getting out of bed.

I just find his comments an insult to my intelligence. I think a number of people like @Tubey have done too.

 

[Azza]

Mayor Joe has his say - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/everton-fc-stadium-liverpool-council-9315418

“What Robert Elstone has said in his programme notes is that this is a financial problem that the club needs to resolve."

Watch this space...