New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[Efcjake]

Did they really have so many to choose from ?

Did they interview more than one?

 

[kithnou]

Out of curiosity, will we be seeing our new owner set foot at his new club any time soon?

 

[Curtis]

If we go down a lot of it comes down to who the new owners chose to replace Dyche.

If we get relegated they chose poorly

I think moyes was actually a sensible pick as he's gotten everton and west ham out of relegation scrapes in the past while developing the squads and elevating them up the table I know it's not glamorous or electrifying , I eventually would like an manager like kovic or Johan Schmidt from abroad but where we're currently situated that's a lot to ask for a manager not familiar with the league to immediately start successful. Imagine if the bournemouth manager who I really rate took over for bournemouth mid season where were at in the table, it would be disastrous it took him going 7 games without a win to gain his footing. I get its a boring choice but moyes is so much better than dyche

 

[davek]

I hope this lot know they dont get to stay if they relegate us.

Just sayin.

 

[davek]

He's a bit less pragmatic than Dyche.

He'll push us up, a bit. Full backs got forward more. Branthwaite pushed up. Doucoure spent less time in recovery position.

Will we get more goals and get more results on the back of it? Or just lose more like we did with Lampard?

The latter.

The only way we have a chance of surviving short of buying a shed load of quality attacking players this window is circling the wagons and taking a point in loads of games and the odd win.

Moyes will relegate us if he thinks he can get this team into an effective attacking force. You need to keep possession too if you're more expansive - even slightly more expansive - and we dont have players who can retain the ball.

IMO we'll need to reset in a couple of weeks on the back of two more defeats. These owners are going to need to take dramatic decisions and sack Moyes and hire someone else. Unless they want their investment cratered for sure. Come to an 'agreement' with Moyes that the return gig was a move both parties have reconsidered and feel wont work out.

Red faces all round but in the long run forgotten about and not damaging for each party.

I hope I'm proven wrong and Moyes takes us on a great run. But I look at him and he already looks shell shocked and making daft comments that'll make things worse not better.

The tragedy is we had Dyche and he could have eked out the points in a relegation fight with 3/4 other ropey teams. Under Moyes I highly doubt he will. He looks and sounds like yesterday's man. This will end badly.

 

[AS Roma_fan]

Interesting situation. Both Roma and Everton women want Kathrine Kühl from Arsenal. Curious to see how this will be settled within the Friedkin Group.

 

[JLW]

The latter.

The only way we have a chance of surviving short of buying a shed load of quality attacking players this window is circling the wagons and taking a point in loads of games and the odd win.

Moyes will relegate us if he thinks he can get this team into an effective attacking force. You need to keep possession too if you're more expansive - even slightly more expansive - and we dont have players who can retain the ball.

IMO we'll need to reset in a couple of weeks on the back of two more defeats. These owners are going to need to take dramatic decisions and sack Moyes and hire someone else. Unless they want their investment cratered for sure. Come to an 'agreement' with Moyes that the return gig was a move both parties have reconsidered and feel wont work out.

Red faces all round but in the long run forgotten about and not damaging for each party.

I hope I'm proven wrong and Moyes takes us on a great run. But I look at him and he already looks shell shocked and making daft comments that'll make things worse not better.

The tragedy is we had Dyche and he could have eked out the points in a relegation fight with 3/4 other ropey teams. Under Moyes I highly doubt he will. He looks and sounds like yesterday's man. This will end badly.

Dave we won’t clean sheet our way to safety, to do that we will need a quality striker and winger to put away the very few chances we will create.

We’ve just rightly so sacked a manager for that exact same thing, just pushing the fullbacks on more will help us a lot, if we’re going to persist with DCL then at least put the wingers on the predominant side so they whip crosses in, and/or instruct the fullbacks to get to the byline to that.

If we can get two wins together the confidence will grow and these players will play more to their ability, it’s not great but they are better than what their showing.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The latter.

The only way we have a chance of surviving short of buying a shed load of quality attacking players this window is circling the wagons and taking a point in loads of games and the odd win.

Not addressing an inability to create or score goals has caused us years of high blood pressure.

That needed doing anyway, and 4 years go.

Moyes will relegate us if he thinks he can get this team into an effective attacking force. You need to keep possession too if you're more expansive - even slightly more expansive - and we dont have players who can retain the ball.

He doesn't.

He's been here less than a week and telling anyone who'll listen his options to create/score goals are pitiful.

Because they are - no Roman Dixon or Nathan Patterson was going to resolve. Nor playing Harrison left wing, or Lindstrom who hasn't scored a goal in over 2 years. Whatever way you slice it, this team is struggling for goals. As it has for many years.

IMO we'll need to reset in a couple of weeks on the back of two more defeats. These owners are going to need to take dramatic decisions and sack Moyes and hire someone else. Unless they want their investment cratered for sure. Come to an 'agreement' with Moyes that the return gig was a move both parties have reconsidered and feel wont work out.

Red faces all round but in the long run forgotten about and not damaging for each party.

I hope I'm proven wrong and Moyes takes us on a great run. But I look at him and he already looks shell shocked and making daft comments that'll make things worse not better.

The tragedy is we had Dyche and he could have eked out the points in a relegation fight with 3/4 other ropey teams. Under Moyes I highly doubt he will. He looks and sounds like yesterday's man. This will end badly.

I think the new owners coming in, and Dyche's contract situation can't be understated.

New players weren't signing for a glorified interim manager.

A lack of accountability, both managerial future and half a squad who can/will leave in the summer was kryptonite to Dyche's approach. As he admitted, players stopped listening to him.

3 years on the spin we averaged 41 points. 3 years on the spin we didn't achieve 'safety' until April/May. We weren't good enough to coast over the line

 

[davek]

Dave we won’t clean sheet our way to safety, to do that we will need a quality striker and winger to put away the very few chances we will create.

We’ve just rightly so sacked a manager for that exact same thing, just pushing the fullbacks on more will help us a lot, if we’re going to persist with DCL then at least put the wingers on the predominant side so they whip crosses in, and/or instruct the fullbacks to get to the byline to that.

If we can get two wins together the confidence will grow and these players will play more to their ability, it’s not great but they are better than what their showing.

And you think our attackers will snap those chances up?

That's a poor calculation.

Dyche kept us up for 2 seasons keeping it tight. \He kept it tight because we have poor players.

 

[blueboy72]

Let’s be honest we will be playing second fiddle to Roma…

You believe that then you’re braindead. Lots of rumours they will sell Roma or at least sell part of them soon. Premier league is the place to be

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Dave we won’t clean sheet our way to safety, to do that we will need a quality striker and winger to put away the very few chances we will create.

We’ve just rightly so sacked a manager for that exact same thing, just pushing the fullbacks on more will help us a lot, if we’re going to persist with DCL then at least put the wingers on the predominant side so they whip crosses in, and/or instruct the fullbacks to get to the byline to that.

If we can get two wins together the confidence will grow and these players will play more to their ability, it’s not great but they are better than what their showing.

We did until we sacked him to be fair.

We were poor last season. Terrible to watch, relied on set pieces. It's not often acknowledged either, but we were also incredibly lucky with injuries.

But at some point you've got to bring them players in you say. Saying so, automatically made you a Dychette - but it's reality, that won't change under Moyes.

The question is whether we push players more forward will that resolve lack of goals. Maybe. Or maybe we just lose the draws;

 

[davek]

Not addressing an inability to create or score goals has caused us years of high blood pressure.

That needed doing anyway, and 4 years go.



He doesn't.

He's been here less than a week and telling anyone who'll listen his options to create/score goals are pitiful.

Because they are - no Roman Dixon or Nathan Patterson was going to resolve. Nor playing Harrison left wing, or Lindstrom who hasn't scored a goal in over 2 years. Whatever way you slice it, this team is struggling for goals. As it has for many years.



I think the new owners coming in, and Dyche's contract situation can't be understated.

New players weren't signing for a glorified interim manager.

A lack of accountability, both managerial future and half a squad who can/will leave in the summer was kryptonite to Dyche's approach. As he admitted, players stopped listening to him.

3 years on the spin we averaged 41 points. 3 years on the spin we didn't achieve 'safety' until April/May. We weren't good enough to coast over the line

I'm not sure that players now will sign for Moyes - who also looks like a glorified interim manager. In fact, I dont think enough cash is going to be made available in the window to change the situation around.

Moyes if he stays will have to do what Dyche did. His post match press conference sounded like he fully endorsed Dyche's approach having seen up close for a few days the hand Dyche was dealt him. And if it was a surprise to him it shouldn't have been. Anyone looking on in any sort of half arsed way could see we fall apart as an attacking entity if McNeil or Garner aren't in the team...and they're no world beaters either.

IMO the damage is done: we needed to hold our nerve and allow Dyche to get us out of this. They're his team and he'd have got the required points and then disappeared in May to allow a new manager with new ideas with a few quid to spend.

I desperately hope I'm wrong and Moyes gets them on a run, but I see us on a wing and a prayer right now.

 

[JLW]

And you think our attackers will snap those chances up?

That's a poor calculation.

Dyche kept us up for 2 seasons keeping it tight. \He kept it tight because we have poor players.

Our attack gets about 2 chances per game and they’re not clinical enough so we need to create more. That doesn’t just mean get better quality players (which I’m not saying we don’t need) it means attack more get more crosses in the box, get more bodies around DCL when we are attacking.
Without risk there’s no reward, every team does it.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

We did until we sacked him to be fair.

We were poor last season. Terrible to watch, relied on set pieces. It's not often acknowledged either, but we were also incredibly lucky with injuries.

But at some point you've got to bring them players in you say. Saying so, automatically made you a Dychette - but it's reality, that won't change under Moyes.

The question is whether we push players more forward will that resolve lack of goals. Maybe. Or maybe we just lose the draws;

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We already have the basis of a decent defence there, certainly when you compare it to the other 'bottom 6' teams.

Cut out the mistakes and get some better footballers in during this month and we'll be fine. But if not...

 

[davek]

Our attack gets about 2 chances per game and they’re not clinical enough so we need to create more. That doesn’t just mean get better quality players (which I’m not saying we don’t need) it means attack more get more crosses in the box, get more bodies around DCL when we are attacking.
Without risk there’s no reward, every team does it.

We need bodies behind the ball. Leaving us expose = almost certain defeat.

That calculation of attack v defence changes only when the quality of our players changes.