Moyes States Collina Fix Belief

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So its Kopite behaviour to suggest it was a fix? Hm.

 

[ijjysmith]

I remember the day after.

Was horrific. Had to drive to Bristol with my bitch of an area manager and I couldn't hide my rage.

 

[EFCNIK]

*voms, uses vom as lube, cry faps, faints, cuts self, faints, cries in corner in fetal position.

 

[Royal Blue Jersey]

One bad bell that fella, always thought he was one of the few good ones. Would like to put him and Clattenburg in the hunger games and see what one survives

Why let one survive?

 

[ijjysmith]

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[Tubey]

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Well that's mature. Moyes is a Kopite then as well?

So you're saying I'm "deluded" for suggesting that the decision to call the world's best referee to come and do a random Champions League qualifier is a bit odd (especially given his subsequent immediate retirement). A referee who was hand-picked by FIFA for the world's biggest games to the extent that he became a celebrity in his own right. A referee who maybe wouldn't mind doing a favour for his benevolent bosses.

Coincidentally, he comes back for a game which, if Everton won, would see a disproportionate amount of English teams potentially qualify for the Champions League due to an embarrassing FIFA loophole.

Then he makes a call which made zero sense (after horrible refereeing throughout, biased against Everton - watch it back again, that's not my bias, it's simply having a pair of eyes), which prevents Everton qualifying, the "correct" amount of English teams qualify and then he quietly retires. At the start of a new season. Months before he had to retire.

It's not like I'm saying Bigfoot exists here FFS.

 

[kev101]

Let's be honest, it wasn't a Fix, just a horrendous decision

Either way, it was TERRIBLE!!

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Well that's mature. Moyes is a Kopite then as well?

So you're saying I'm "deluded" for suggesting that the decision to call the world's best referee to come and do a random Champions League qualifier is a bit odd (especially given his subsequent immediate retirement). A referee who was hand-picked by FIFA for the world's biggest games to the extent that he became a celebrity in his own right. A referee who maybe wouldn't mind doing a favour for his benevolent bosses.

Coincidentally, he comes back for a game which, if Everton won, would see a disproportionate amount of English teams potentially qualify for the Champions League due to an embarrassing FIFA loophole.

Then he makes a call which made zero sense (after horrible refereeing throughout, biased against Everton - watch it back again, that's not my bias, it's simply having a pair of eyes), which prevents Everton qualifying, the "correct" amount of English teams qualify and then he quietly retires. At the start of a new season. Months before he had to retire.

It's not like I'm saying Bigfoot exists here FFS.

I don't get why anyone who wished to perpertrate a fix in a high profile game (our first Champs league game certainly was) would draw so much attention to it by appointing Collina when surely they could way more easily have got some unknown ref from Lithuania to do it instead.

And the disallowed goal would not have sent us through, wish people would stop saying that, it simply would have took us to extra time where they would have won if we didn't score again.

Have you considered the fact that one team had to draw Villareal and that referees make mistakes? There's just as much proof that that is what happened as there is that it was a fix.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. But what i think what Cena is saying is that people who act like it definatly was are doing the same thing as we accuse some kopites of doing.

 

[Tubey]

I don't get why anyone who wished to perpertrate a fix in a high profile game (our first Champs league game certainly was) would draw so much attention to it by appointing Collina when surely they could way more easily have got some unknown ref from Lithuania to do it instead.

And the disallowed goal would not have sent us through, wish people would stop saying that, it simply would have took us to extra time where they would have won if we didn't score again.

Have you considered the fact that one team had to draw Villareal and that referees make mistakes? There's just as much proof that that is what happened as there is that it was a fix.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. But what i think what Cena is saying is that people who act like it definatly was are doing the same thing as we accuse some kopites of doing.

I'm not saying definitely - I'm saying I have more trouble believing it wasn't. Bit of a difference!

Plus I don't think it's on that he's just basically called me a Kopite for saying something that our own bloody manager that everyone adores around here said.

As for why FIFA would appoint Collina - it could be because he's the one they trusted with such a job, that they didn't expect him to have to fix it in such a vivid way (after all, watch the games and you'll see repeated dodgy "little" calls throughout the tie - again, that's just the way it was. I don't know how many Evertonians watched it back but there were a LOT of silly decisions from a normally reliable referee).

There's also been no explanation at all as to why Collina retired immediately after that game which was at the start of a new season, when he hadn't given a hint as to that being his intention in the close season the year before.

Not just that. He's Italian and involved in football - a combination that is normally "1+1=2" when it comes to corruption. He's never been linked to it personally but this was time where it's retrospectively come out in the wash that Italy was absolutely riddled with corruption.

He's heavily involved with FIFA, which is a corrupt a governing body as you can give an example of. And the circumstances with the "five teams from England" and the obvious embarrassment FIFA had over that issue... it all adds up for me.

Too much smoke to be no fire.

 

[paulbefc]

My lowest point being a blue. Still hurts and will do until we finish fourth again, at least.

 

[Bend it like Hinchcliffe]

fifa=corrupt
collina=italian=corrupt

collina was in trouble with fifa due to adverts he`d appeared in (seat cars) i believe. without their consent, prior to our game.

very strange set of events.
oh btw when duncan SCORED, we were the better team........

ahhhhhhh fook it

 

[macst]

And the disallowed goal would not have sent us through, wish people would stop saying that, it simply would have took us to extra time where they would have won if we didn't score again.

Didn't the Dunc "goal" even it all up at 3-3 on aggregate with 2 away goals apiece? Or has my memory finally gone?

 

[Bungle]

Haven't watched a repeat of that decision since it originally happened, until this morning when reading this thread. Instant rage.

Fair play as well to the Everton fan that questions Collina in that clip, I quite liked Collina before that game, now however I'd gladly watch him being violated by a gang of aids riddled chimps.

 

[bobafro]

And the disallowed goal would not have sent us through, wish people would stop saying that, it simply would have took us to extra time where they would have won if we didn't score again.

It would've tied the game. Extra Time and then penalties. how do you figure we would defintely lose without scoring again after it.... unless you're talking about missing all our penalties.

It doesn't matter at this stage, but that decision cost this club so much money. I reckon if we had qualified for the group stages we would now be playing in a new stadium...

 

[blue4eva77]

Jesus, how long ago was this

Yes Moysie, Collina has the same eyes as you, you are not unique sorry mate.

Just move on