Moyes pre Stoke Presser

[TheFinnFan]

“It may be that I’ll be in a position where I am out of work if I chose not to stay here at Everton, because I do not have a job to go to - there is nothing lined up."

It becomes more obvious by the day that his mind is made up.

He would not make a comment like that if he was staying.

it seems that he wants offers. He is open for negotiations with other clubs, thats what he is saying

 

[MartSlinger]

It's like you are splitting up with your girl, but she says "Look, if you really, really, REALLY want me to stay I just might think about it...."

I dont think David Moyes wants to leave EFC, but theres that doubt in the back of his mind that maybe things arent going to improve and he has ultimately taken us as far as he can. Put it this way, if he stays, he's going to have to sell one of our best players to fund a few incomings, two steps back.

 

[Walken]

At least were not villa

 

[sheeds]

it seems that he wants offers. He is open for negotiations with other clubs, thats what he is saying

I genuinely can't belief anyone can read it differently

 

[wiggum23]

I genuinely can't belief anyone can read it differently

Exactly. He has said he won't take a sabbatical so that leaves us or another team. He is pimping himself out publicly through sound bites and pressers hoping to get another offer. If he doesn't he will stay.

 

[harry]

You have to laugh really.

Every team that gets listed as winning trophies during Moyes' time here who don't fit the "Only megabucks teams win things" all get called lucky instead.

We've had plenty of "luck" in the cups after having plenty of home ties and lower league sides drawn against us. We've had plenty of good opportunities with very good teams to win a trophy. But haven't.

Its not the impossible dream. Its not easy but with the squads of the quality we've had over Moyes tenure i'd say we're the best team not to have won a trophy.

If moyes wins a trophy (he won't) will he be a genius or will it be a fluke.

 

[Christiffa25]

All I can see is a guy who has done 11yrs, has a small and in places ageing squad...knows that for once there is a substantial amount of money going to be available in the summer and wants to do everything to ensure he has funds to rebuild a squad and push on.

No drama IMO.
I'd put money on him still being here next season!

 

[davek]

All I can see is a guy who has done 11yrs, has a small and in places ageing squad...knows that for once there is a substantial amount of money going to be available in the summer and wants to do everything to ensure he has funds to rebuild a squad and push on.

No drama IMO.
I'd put money on him still being here next season!

I've said it all along. He'll sign a new deal. And he'll do that for three overriding reasons, none of which is the much vaunted 'securing funds' proviso:

• He's not wanted anywhere else in a job bigger than Everton
• He's on a wage that only successful managers secure (a massive amount for a bog-standard operator like him to pull down)
• He's got form for caving in and accepting financial prudence/a kick in the plums from his employers

Everything here is just choreography. There is no negotiation; there is no other manger waiting in the wings; there is no lack of planning for the future. It's just a huge smokescreen that will take up a large part of our summer and will eventually be resolved with him signing amid fanfare of trumpets; meantime everyone's eye will have been taken off the ball (again) in terms of using our summers for squad building purposes and we'll limp into the next campaign as weak as we are now.

This is the club and the treatment our supporters deserve. You accept phonies and liars at the top of the club and pats on the head from the media for being plucky 'best of the rest' Everton and you must pay a high price. The price is failure. Dress it up all we want with 'top 6 finishes', it amounts to the same lack of success and a guarantee of more of the same for years to come.

 

[blue61]

I've said it all along. He'll sign a new deal. And he'll do that for three overriding reasons, none of which is the much vaunted 'securing funds' proviso:

• He's not wanted anywhere else in a job bigger than Everton
• He's on a wage that only successful managers secure (a massive amount for a bog-standard operator like him to pull down)
• He's got form for caving in and accepting financial prudence/a kick in the plums from his employers

Everything here is just choreography. There is no negotiation; there is no other manger waiting in the wings; there is no lack of planning for the future. It's just a huge smokescreen that will take up a large part of our summer and will eventually be resolved with him signing amid fanfare of trumpets; meantime everyone's eye will have been taken off the ball (again) in terms of using our summers for squad building purposes and we'll limp into the next campaign as weak as we are now.

This is the club and the treatment our supporters deserve. You accept phonies and liars at the top of the club and pats on the head from the media for being plucky 'best of the rest' Everton and you must pay a high price. The price is failure. Dress it up all we want with 'top 6 finishes', it amounts to the same lack of success and a guarantee of more of the same for years to come.

 

[Khalekan]

Nothing do with O'neill,they just stopped spending money and since shown what a badly run club really looks like.
Same with a lot of badly run clubs when the cash runs out.

btw i want Moyes to stay

That flies in the face of what practically every Villa fan one comes across or reads on message boards say.

And for the record.....O'Neill wasn't fired by Villa.

He walked out on them a couple of days before the season started.

O'Neill, like Moyes, is in thrall to his own ego and swallows all the gushing crap about himeslf he reads in the press.

 

[Royal Blue Jersey]

I just don't know what to think anymore. I love Moyes and have been one of his stauncher supporters but, as with Fellaini's comments to the press, his ambivalent attitude to the whole situation went from understandably noncommittal to offensively aloof. The club being strung along while he lines up some lucrative job abroad, maximising the short term gain knowing he'll be gone in the summer (being stubborn about not selling Fellaini in January when his stock was high; giving Neville a new deal, and I expect he will drop Heitinga and Mucha for the Stoke game which is tantamount to pushing them out the exit door in preparation for the summer firesale, further evidence in a long line that he is far from a good man manager) and us having to be reminded, Harold MacMillan-style, just how grateful we should be.

Yes David, we know. I don't mind the persistent - or rather, consistent - reminders of the budget constraints he works on especially vis-a-vis the teams we compete with and how they are an indicator of his ability and a means to highlight just how impressive finishing in the top 7 never mind the top 4 will be. Given that I've always supported Moyes I am probably not the kind of fan he is directing his comments at but seeing as I am a fan and he makes no effort to distinguish us when he releases yet another self-serving quote I can't help but feel a little personally aggrieved eventually.
The problem is his stubbornness and pride. Instead of saying how great we've been the rest of the season, an example of deep denial if ever there was one, why didn't he come out an apologise to the fans for subjecting them to a footballing lesson courtesy of a team that took far less to assemble that the one we had? Why not admit that regardless of our budget, regardless of what our players cost in relative terms, in actual terms they have performed below their value at times. There is no shame in admitting that have put in a run of patchy performances for months now. But then when you are courting potential suitors from across Europe accepting blame isn't really in your best interests is it?

 

[D410]

Hahahahahahahah

Moyes has basically told the press there that he does,nt believe what he,s been told by Bill eg the budget and wants details.

Bill does,nt do details so.......

 

[Khalekan]

I've said it all along. He'll sign a new deal. And he'll do that for three overriding reasons, none of which is the much vaunted 'securing funds' proviso:

• He's not wanted anywhere else in a job bigger than Everton
• He's on a wage that only successful managers secure (a massive amount for a bog-standard operator like him to pull down)
• He's got form for caving in and accepting financial prudence/a kick in the plums from his employers

Everything here is just choreography. There is no negotiation; there is no other manger waiting in the wings; there is no lack of planning for the future. It's just a huge smokescreen that will take up a large part of our summer and will eventually be resolved with him signing amid fanfare of trumpets; meantime everyone's eye will have been taken off the ball (again) in terms of using our summers for squad building purposes and we'll limp into the next campaign as weak as we are now.

This is the club and the treatment our supporters deserve. You accept phonies and liars at the top of the club and pats on the head from the media for being plucky 'best of the rest' Everton and you must pay a high price. The price is failure. Dress it up all we want with 'top 6 finishes', it amounts to the same lack of success and a guarantee of more of the same for years to come.

Nail struck firmly on head.

Worse, it will be the end of September or into October before the trumpet fanfare and we will be playing catch up as this bollox will have dragged on through the summer and our normal early season ennui will have been resumed.

 

[ijjysmith]

It's certainly not a good thing having to wait until the summer and then Moyes decide if he's staying or not.

If we have no money he's off, and we have to find another manager who then knows we have no cash.

Great.

 

[D410]

I've said it all along. He'll sign a new deal. And he'll do that for three overriding reasons, none of which is the much vaunted 'securing funds' proviso:

• He's not wanted anywhere else in a job bigger than Everton
• He's on a wage that only successful managers secure (a massive amount for a bog-standard operator like him to pull down)
• He's got form for caving in and accepting financial prudence/a kick in the plums from his employers

Everything here is just choreography. There is no negotiation; there is no other manger waiting in the wings; there is no lack of planning for the future. It's just a huge smokescreen that will take up a large part of our summer and will eventually be resolved with him signing amid fanfare of trumpets; meantime everyone's eye will have been taken off the ball (again) in terms of using our summers for squad building purposes and we'll limp into the next campaign as weak as we are now.

This is the club and the treatment our supporters deserve. You accept phonies and liars at the top of the club and pats on the head from the media for being plucky 'best of the rest' Everton and you must pay a high price. The price is failure. Dress it up all we want with 'top 6 finishes', it amounts to the same lack of success and a guarantee of more of the same for years to come.

DaveK - I saw that interview and my take on that was Moyes is ,nt buying what he has been told on the budget side hence the request of the breakdown of details.....he then goes on to say that Bill meant well with his interview on SSN and smiled cynically. The budget figure Bill has given Moyes is probably a load of bollocks and Moyes knows it so it was no surprise that Bill was on SSN telling everyone investors on the phone again.

I think the fella wants to sign another contract but does,nt trust the owner hence will keep his option open.

The fans are being taken for ride while Bill struggles to come to terms with the fact he can,t go on and has lost the media support to Moyes so we are seeing a soft PR game going on in the media for the benefit of no one but themselves.