Moyes or Glasner?

[when i score we riot]

Shouldn't even be a debate.

The only slight on Glasner is that he seems to have fully given up on Palace now, which is not a particularly great look..

That's a rather obvious and glaring "slight" though. Even Moyes was seen giving more of a care in the final few months before leaving us for Man Utd.

I'm firmly in the Moyes camp, and it's simply that i think he is doing a good job, we are 8th in the league despite a lot of setbacks. Thing is he has an ability to carry big and small setbacks rather well, that kind of stuff is really a big part of what "stability" is about. The players are able to bounce back from bad results, they don't let their heads drop when things don't go their way and Moyes obviously has their back - and backing.

Compare that to the situation with Dyche at Forest now or Frank at Spurs. The former is an example of inability to carry those setbacks, the latter is an example of what we've usually had to face as a fanbase. We carried Dyche, Silva, Lampard and Martinez for at least two months too long on each occasion. Moyes has not yet suffered through his position becoming untenable, and that is honestly down to his skill as a manager.

If you ask me, Glasner is currently way deep down in untenable territory, even discounting the fact he already decided to leave in the summer. Proper definition of dead man walking.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

There’s no cheese on toast option

That’s a posh Welshman’s lunch in the third option slot

 

[Swartzy]

I wouldn’t be presenting a ripping up of the club to start over with a fresh approach as a negative. I mean this is Moyes vs Glasner and that switch in vision is exactly what Palace did without ever going down

Thought we were talking Iraola and Bournemouth, not Palace..

 

[Parker]

Before this season and how Glasner acted, it wouldnt be a question.

But seeing that, he'd down tools for us the minute a bigger team even flirted with the idea of appointing him.

Its all about whether you want a manager who can potentially stay long term or be happy with a good year or two and then him leaving.

Moyes will not be here in a year or so anyway. And they'll already be looking for a successor.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

No point in talking about different managers for another season at least. Moyes ain't getting sacked and even if he doesn't a contract extension, his current one doesn't end until the finish of 26-27.

 

[Swartzy]

Every club bar Real Madrid and Man City, and maybe a couple others, are feeder clubs.

Every club in the world buys and sells, thats football.

Their is different approaches/models of how you run your club.

Strasbourg are a chelsea branded feeder club. Brighton are an unbranded Chelsea feeder club.

We just do what has always been done in football..

 

[MikeyMike]

First of all find a well-run club, with a well-run recruitment policy, and a solid squad with a sprinkling of stand-out brilliant players. Then add a manager, pretty much any competent manager, and you'll be successful.

 

[Delargeinho]

Don't think doing the little-to-no-investment path is realistically doable in the Prem to be honest. Yeah you can get an odd gem here and there but you kind of need to spend money to get quality.

Not in the long-term, see examples like Dyche Burnley, us for years etc. Brentford does well as well.

on the other hand, when we invested heavilly under Moshiri, we got significiantly worse year by year, it‘s never a guarantee that expensive signs work…

I am happy tho we have money to spend again to get closer to Europe and into Europe again. Surely need another 100-150 to have not only depth, but also a good quality of depth.

 

[fandjango]

There are times when you guys make me laugh … the glasner
voters want to shed a manager who in 12 short months has changed everything for the better to a status which you would all have happily accepted last year . A manager who wears his heart on his sleeve and has Everton and its wellbeing in his veins . You want to appoint a talented but emotionally practically and experientially divorced from this club and its complex recent history.
Give your heads a shake … let DM continue to stabilise us for another season and a half then think about experimenting with someone else
You don’t deserve nice things

 

[DualityNSNO]

Not in the long-term, see examples like Dyche Burnley, us for years etc. Brentford does well as well.

on the other hand, when we invested heavilly under Moshiri, we got significiantly worse year by year, it‘s never a guarantee that expensive signs work…

I am happy tho we have money to spend again to get closer to Europe and into Europe again. Surely need another 100-150 to have not only depth, but also a good quality of depth.

I think we're probably the poor example of this to be honest - we invested brainlessly, just throwing money around. Some players were VERY far from that but it's like we just wanted to flash some cash, not negotiate.

It's important we don't get any more Barry's though, which is where we fall apart - Brentford needed a striker so went and got one that wasn't solely potential and at least was physically going to cut it in Thiago, for example, and there's many others obviously. Like yeah Barry's potential is great and he might come good, but "might" is doing a lot of pulling here

 

[McCallsVolley]

Viva John Rooney

 

[PeterGet]

Good to see we’re back to sacking the manager and getting absolutely anyone in..

FYI
We’re 8th and miles off relegation for the first time in 4 years

Terrible progress.. Let’s sack him

 

[Swartzy]

I think we're probably the poor example of this to be honest - we invested brainlessly, just throwing money around. Some players were VERY far from that but it's like we just wanted to flash some cash, not negotiate.

It's important we don't get any more Barry's though, which is where we fall apart - Brentford needed a striker so went and got one that wasn't solely potential and at least was physically going to cut it in Thiago, for example, and there's many others obviously. Like yeah Barry's potential is great and he might come good, but "might" is doing a lot of pulling here

Thiago wouldn't have lasted with our fanbase, he was out to long..

He would have been another ' why didn't we use Google ' signing..

 

[Dddddd]

Good to see we’re back to sacking the manager and getting absolutely anyone in..

FYI
We’re 8th and miles off relegation for the first time in 4 years

Terrible progress.. Let’s sack him

It’s been frustrating playing so badly at home but yes if everyone takes a step back and looks at it the progress is undeniable

 

[DualityNSNO]

Thiago wouldn't have lasted with our fanbase, he was out to long..

He would have been another ' why didn't we use Google ' signing..

My 'problem' is that I've seen him be crap in Bulgaria, but credit to him for improving constantly to be honest, and reaching the level he's currently at.