Fair enough. I disagree.
Between 1991 and 2002 we finished in the top 10 once. This despite being one of the top spending clubs in the league. We escaped relegation on the last day of the season twice in that time.
Howard Kendall had managed for 2 years in the lower league before becoming Everton manger.
Mike Walker had 18 months experience in the top division.
Colin Harvey's first job was as Everton manager.
Joe Royle had lots of years of yo-yo-ing with Oldham before joining us.
Walter Smith is the only manager with any track record of success we've appointed ever as far as I can see,
I fail to see how the lack of investment in the Kenwright era can be blamed on the manager. For someone whose expectations have been lowered you certainly give off the impression of entitlement.
If you expect Everton to challenge for the title on a budget 4 times lower than at least 5-6 other teams have then you are living in la-la land. It hasn't happened in football before. When we won titles we were in the group the big spending clubs. Do you honestly not believe with another £100m a season to spend we wouldn't have a better squad, more capable of challenging?
"This is Everton" means nothing. Over 38 games the team with the biggest and best squad wins. Moyes has assembled a squad for naff all money which has only finished below one team (Newcastle last year) who have a similar budget in the last 6 years. That is an incredible level of consistency.
In 10 years only 4 teams have won more points than us, only those 4 have conceded fewer and only those 4 plus Spurs (just) have scored more. That is phenomenal - yes there is no trophy for it but I fail to see what else he could do on our budget.
Yeah but we had the attitude of competing which may be why we won the FA CUP.
Mike Walker had top flight experience, qualifying for europe and beating Bayern, the other lads are all connected to Everton, not sure what part of novice and no everton association escaped you.
"entitlement" ??? thought I used the word expectation but I can see what you're doing there.
Never said we should challenge for the title, again I see what you're doing but Moyes failures stretch to the cups and certain grounds, as I say some don't see that as right.
Look I understand some see what Moyes has done as remarkable as you say you fail to see what else he could have done - me and others we argue otherwise and until he goes never the twain shall meet.