Steve Clarke will be our next manager.
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Christiffa25
Player Valuation: £35m
The only thing that gives us any right to have won anything over the last 10yrs is our name and history.
Moyes took over a side the equivalent of today's qpr but with no real funds to take us anywhere near back to the top. He's built the club back up from the bottom inc finch farm, youth and scouting.
The 4th place finish was as great of a achievement as any Micky mouse domestic cup IMO. I'd rather the 10yrs we'v had over portsmouth's 10yr stint, albeit with a FA cup in there cabinet.
As much as I enjoyed the FA cup win in 95 all the sourounding years of that win being an Evertonian were amongst the worse memories and depressing times Iv accounted being a blue.
Get real, you just KNOW that it will be Neville and if we're really lucky we will get Big Dunc or Sheedy as No2
nigelcoyb
Player Valuation: £25m
I just think Moyes recognition for what actually has happened these past 10 yrs is overblown.
Walters era was about the last vestiges of expectation, he was lied to about the state of the club and become a lame duck manager but his appointment alluded to a club still showing ambition. His playing staff were never as universally rank as portrayed they just couldn't match expectations they were certainly capable of "existing" in the division, as they later proved, but that wasn't acceptable back then.
The crushing of Walter with the desperate grasping of straws via Gazza, Ginola etc was the last pretence, Moyes appointment closed the door on historical EFC it was a cutoff point. As a novice without any track record or Everton background it's arguable he could have got a start at any other time in the clubs history.
It was a humbling experience seeing illustrious ambition of yore packed away, most fans quietly lowered expectation giving him and Kenwright every chance but many turned away particularly the older brigade, the idea of Nil satis, the holy trinity, school of science, trophies - all gone - an absolute betrayal.
In truth peripheral existence in the Prem has become a goal in itself the shameful irony of "7th place trophy" is lost on some fans who think EFC means relegation battle. It's now a joke to think of us winning anything and up until recently absolute dross was justified with ghoulish references to "remember Walter!!!" as though that is Everton FC.
Well a decade ago seems a long time ago to still be saying saying it so when he goes I'll acknowledge Moyes did a job but beyond ordinary?? A cause to be celebrated ??
Not for me.
Walters era was about the last vestiges of expectation, he was lied to about the state of the club and become a lame duck manager but his appointment alluded to a club still showing ambition. His playing staff were never as universally rank as portrayed they just couldn't match expectations they were certainly capable of "existing" in the division, as they later proved, but that wasn't acceptable back then.
The crushing of Walter with the desperate grasping of straws via Gazza, Ginola etc was the last pretence, Moyes appointment closed the door on historical EFC it was a cutoff point. As a novice without any track record or Everton background it's arguable he could have got a start at any other time in the clubs history.
It was a humbling experience seeing illustrious ambition of yore packed away, most fans quietly lowered expectation giving him and Kenwright every chance but many turned away particularly the older brigade, the idea of Nil satis, the holy trinity, school of science, trophies - all gone - an absolute betrayal.
In truth peripheral existence in the Prem has become a goal in itself the shameful irony of "7th place trophy" is lost on some fans who think EFC means relegation battle. It's now a joke to think of us winning anything and up until recently absolute dross was justified with ghoulish references to "remember Walter!!!" as though that is Everton FC.
Well a decade ago seems a long time ago to still be saying saying it so when he goes I'll acknowledge Moyes did a job but beyond ordinary?? A cause to be celebrated ??
Not for me.
ToffeeBlueNose
Player Valuation: £30m
most of this thread isn't really about goals on sunday, i missed it any good?
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
And Joe Royle the guy who actually won something of course.
Summerskin
Player Valuation: £35m
I'd be f*cking gutted if Moyes left.
Imagine all the games we'd lose against the likes of QPR, Reading, Bolton and especially Liverpool, not to mention all those mazy cup runs we've been on over this past decade, Wembley has become something of a second home to us it would just be so unfortunate for us to clearly never get back there, as it's supposedly beyond the realm of any other manager, ever.
God knows what kind of manager would come here to our sorry club, seeing as it's only the 12th best paid managerial job in world football.
Imagine all the games we'd lose against the likes of QPR, Reading, Bolton and especially Liverpool, not to mention all those mazy cup runs we've been on over this past decade, Wembley has become something of a second home to us it would just be so unfortunate for us to clearly never get back there, as it's supposedly beyond the realm of any other manager, ever.
God knows what kind of manager would come here to our sorry club, seeing as it's only the 12th best paid managerial job in world football.
I a bit dissapointed he didnt sport a cardy or at least a jumper or something.
Dont like a trendy Davey.
Give youth a chance and that.
Dont like a trendy Davey.
Give youth a chance and that.
Ratkiller
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Great post.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Stuff like this really winds me up tbh, it's revisionist in terms of it's context imo.
We averaged 19K back in Howards last season of his 3rd spell, so to portray the appointment of the young & very highly rated Moyes as signifying some sea change at the club in terms of fans 'turning away' & us having to accept some lesser reality is drivel.
EDIT: Howards 2nd spell not his 3rd.
Fair enough. I disagree.
Between 1991 and 2002 we finished in the top 10 once. This despite being one of the top spending clubs in the league. We escaped relegation on the last day of the season twice in that time.
Howard Kendall had managed for 2 years in the lower league before becoming Everton manger.
Mike Walker had 18 months experience in the top division.
Colin Harvey's first job was as Everton manager.
Joe Royle had lots of years of yo-yo-ing with Oldham before joining us.
Walter Smith is the only manager with any track record of success we've appointed ever as far as I can see,
I fail to see how the lack of investment in the Kenwright era can be blamed on the manager. For someone whose expectations have been lowered you certainly give off the impression of entitlement.
If you expect Everton to challenge for the title on a budget 4 times lower than at least 5-6 other teams have then you are living in la-la land. It hasn't happened in football before. When we won titles we were in the group the big spending clubs. Do you honestly not believe with another £100m a season to spend we wouldn't have a better squad, more capable of challenging?
"This is Everton" means nothing. Over 38 games the team with the biggest and best squad wins. Moyes has assembled a squad for naff all money which has only finished below one team (Newcastle last year) who have a similar budget in the last 6 years. That is an incredible level of consistency.
In 10 years only 4 teams have won more points than us, only those 4 have conceded fewer and only those 4 plus Spurs (just) have scored more. That is phenomenal - yes there is no trophy for it but I fail to see what else he could do on our budget.
Ratkiller
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I think you're wrong re average attendance.
And anyone can put any slant on figures they want anyway. The simple fact is back then we didn't put up with mid table or relegation fights.
Owners were held accountable for their failures.
There was certainly never an acceptance that seventh is phenomenal and fourth place and humiliation in Europe is akin to a league title.
Summerskin
Player Valuation: £35m
Our average attendance for the years 1984 to 1987 reads 33'000.
http://www.evertonresults.com/ataglance2.htm
http://www.evertonresults.com/ataglance2.htm
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