Moyes misses the point

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Do you honestly think if he had a big transfer budget that would change his selections, tactics and subbing?

I believe that his selections, tactics and subs are restricted by the playing staff available to him, and their inherent abilities or in hibbo's case inabilities
 
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Do you honestly think if he had a big transfer budget that would change his selections, tactics and subbing?

I doubt even Moyes would pick Hibbert over Maicon, to be fair.

But the point is we can't get someone who is a much better tactician because a) they wouldn't want to come here and b) they'd also have to be as good at assembling a squad on a budget as Moyes is and very few people are.
 


I didn't say it wasn't? read Mutso's post.

No but the point is, every player currently at the club was brought in by Moyes. Do I think there's managers who can use that squad better? Yes. But you've got to build a squad too and surely if you're weighing our potential for success with him as a manager against bringing in someone new, you have to aknowledge that he's very good at doing that.

I mean who on here had heard of Seamus Coleman before we brought him?
 
No but the point is, every player currently at the club was brought in by Moyes. Do I think there's managers who can use that squad better? Yes. But you've got to build a squad too and surely if you're weighing our potential for success with him as a manager against bringing in someone new, you have to aknowledge that he's very good at doing that.

I mean who on here had heard of Seamus Coleman before we brought him?

am i missing something here? Mutso said he hasn't got the playing staff and i said i think he has. Don't disagree with your post, but it has nothing to do with what i said?
 
am i missing something here? Mutso said he hasn't got the playing staff and i said i think he has. Don't disagree with your post, but it has nothing to do with what i said?

You mentioned the quality of our squad so I mentioned that Moyes put it together. That's all, mate.

Just because I quoted you doesn't mean that I was talking to you specifically. I just thought it was a point worth making, if we're talking about Moyes abilities.
 
am i missing something here? Mutso said he hasn't got the playing staff and i said i think he has. Don't disagree with your post, but it has nothing to do with what i said?

We have the biggest and best squad we've had for a long time...but compare our bench against Chelsea's or Man Utd's and you can see the depth of quality and options available to their manager's, compared to us, and Davey.

Put Moyes in charge of Man Utd / Chelsea, and do you think they would not continue to be successful? Apart from Europe where Davey has limited experience I believe that they would continue to enjoy national success under him as a manager.

Do I think he's the complete finished article - No far from it
He's learning all the time...and he will continue to improve as amanager and so will Everton as a team so long as he's with us.

As for Tactical Knowledge - Think back to last season
2 wins against City
Home wins against Chelsea and Man U
Away draw against Arsenal (shud've won it)

Not bad for someone who's supposed to have limited tactical knowledge!

Yes we've started off slowly this season...it will improve, we will have a good season, and yes Coleman, and Rodwell will establish themselves...

Relax...Kick Back....Trust in Davey
 
We have the biggest and best squad we've had for a long time...but compare our bench against Chelsea's or Man Utd's and you can see the depth of quality and options available to their manager's, compared to us, and Davey.

Put Moyes in charge of Man Utd / Chelsea, and do you think they would not continue to be successful? Apart from Europe where Davey has limited experience I believe that they would continue to enjoy national success under him as a manager.

Do I think he's the complete finished article - No far from it
He's learning all the time...and he will continue to improve as amanager and so will Everton as a team so long as he's with us.

As for Tactical Knowledge - Think back to last season
2 wins against City
Home wins against Chelsea and Man U
Away draw against Arsenal (shud've won it)

Not bad for someone who's supposed to have limited tactical knowledge!

Yes we've started off slowly this season...it will improve, we will have a good season, and yes Coleman, and Rodwell will establish themselves...

Relax...Kick Back....Trust in Davey

You have gone a little of track here mate. you wasn't comparing teams, you said he didn't have the playing staff to pick a decent 11 and i think he does.

As for naming teams we beat it also works the other way.

wolves - 2 draws
hull away - loss (relegated)
Burnley away - loss (relegated)
stoke home - draw
fulham away - loss
liverpool away - 10 men- loss

We played very well against man u, chelsea and man city but we also had some stinkers!

As i hve said in another thread (or this one) i want him to take this team forward but he has to do something this season. for the first time since he joined everton the pressure is on. can he handle it?
 

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