2019/20 Moise Kean

[Toffe3m4n]

You think everyone feels that Kean has doen enough to justify himself? I wouldn't put that to a poll if I were you.

Dave I'm 100% sure that the majority certainly wouldn't say he's 'rubbish' and 'a dud' having already scored a couple of goals in a handful of appearances in his first season...

 

[davek]

See Daves found a new thread to hijack and player to berate now Baines has retired

Take a look around mate, there's post mortem threads all over the place. The player threads have to reflect a season where we confiormed what a complete shambles we are and start weeding out the players responsible for it.

 

[davek]

Dave I'm 100% sure that the majority certainly wouldn't say he's 'rubbish' and 'a dud' having already scored a couple of goals in a handful of appearance in his first season..

Pub that to the test. Conduct a poll. If you're confident like...

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

You think everyone feels that Kean has doen enough to justify himself? I wouldn't put that to a poll if I were you.

He has not done enough to justify himself. 2 goals and a few average performances have not been good enough.
I am not going to give up on him though, as there are countless examples of players who have struggled in their first year in this league.

Hopefully he will find his stride next season and become the player we all hoped he would be. He certainly has the attributes.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Dave, would you say your judgement of young players is usually good?

I ask only because of the memory etched into my brain of your assertion that Kieron Dowell was a better player than Kevin De Bruyne

 

[mill]

He’s had 23 career starts btw. 13 in 23 starts and he’s just turned 20.

 

[davek]

‘Stretching back to 2016’.
He was born at the beginning of 2000 ffs.

Juventus
Verona
Everton

2016-2020

13 goals.

 

[mill]

Juventus
Verona
Everton

2016-2020

13 goals.

23 starts. 13 goals.

 

[davek]

He has not done enough to justify himself. 2 goals and a few average performances have not been good enough.
I am not going to give up on him though, as there are countless examples of players who have struggled in their first year in this league.

Hopefully he will find his stride next season and become the player we all hoped he would be. He certainly has the attributes.

Needs to hit the ground running next seaosn if we dont shift him out.

I diddn't see anything of merit apart from his initial debut appearance.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Juventus
Verona
Everton

2016-2020

13 goals.

In 23 starts, between the ages of 16 and 19. Good stats those.

 

[davek]

Dave, would you say your judgement of young players is usually good?

I ask only because of the memory etched into my brain of your assertion that Kieron Dowell was a better player than Kevin De Bruyne

Did I?

Dowell, btw, is a player with a lot of skill.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Did I?

Dowell, btw, is a player with a lot of skill.

Yes you did - I'm sure somebody will do the honours on this at some point

 

[davek]

Yes you did - I'm sure somebody will do the honours on this at some point

Ok. I doubt I did. But I await the evidence...

 

[mill]

Kean. 866 mins, 2 goals, 2 assists. Involvement in a goal every 216 mins from 6 starts.

DCL. 2660 minutes, 13 goals, 1 assist. Involvement every 190 mins from 30 starts.

Richarlison. 3111 minutes, 13 goals, 3 assists. Involvement in a goal every 194 mins from 36 starts.

 

[Bluestar]

Dave I'm 100% sure that the majority certainly wouldn't say he's 'rubbish' and 'a dud' having already scored a couple of goals in a handful of appearances in his first season.

However, I do think we expected more from a 30m investment. It’s a big outlay on a player not ready for the first team. It meant that we went into the season weak in other areas because we invested in him.
He may yet come good, but he will have to do an awful lot this season to restore some faith.