2019/20 Marco Silva

[Goat]

We have to make a stand and see where we are come Christmas. That would be my method of breaking the chain of the managerial merry-go-round.

If we're not top half of the table by the start of the Christmas fixtures, then take action. Until then....

Silva gets till Christmas.

Meanwhile.

Brands has wasted 250m based on in some cases 20 minutes of footy.

How do you do it dave? Did you have surgery to remove part of your brain?

 

[Frang]

Defo spud.

I see 2 things happening.

1. We win, all his haters FUME cos they know it means he gets another few months
2. We lose, he doesnt get sacked, the whole forum goes mental and theres bans AOTS

With a draw things will just stay the same.

Very exciting 24hours in store.

Sounds cintilating

 

[DickRitchie214]

I saw the match against Burnley in reprisal, and I can't believe we lost that match. We were in complete control and usually played well from behind. Except for Pickford's rockets. However, we were weak in the last third. I expect more from players like Gylfi, Iwobi, Richarlison and DCL.

Richarlison in particular, I think has not lived up to what to expect from him. I think he is too selfish and destroys many attacks where he shoots or makes strange choices, rather than putting his teammates in better positions.

We attack too much one by one. Legendary Norwegian coach Nils Arne Eggen had an important posture: It is important to go on the pitch to be the best you can, but it is more important to make your teammates better. This, I think, is the most important message Marco Silva can convey to his players

Did you happen to catch the City series on Amazon Prime? In one of the episodes, Pep was explaining how they drill constantly on making controlled one-touch passes and still maintain possession. Then they showed a clip (with a counter in the upper corner of the screen) where they made 20 consecutive such passes. Could you imagine what that must be like? I can't remember the last time we made 3 in a row, unless you count: Pickford > Keane > Delph > Morgan > Delph > Gylfi > Morgan > Delph > Mina > Pickford

 

[nsno-chris]

Who would they be exactly?

the players in his squad all buzzing off him and his assistant not having a clue

 

[orly]

Defo spud.

I see 2 things happening.

1. We win, all his haters FUME cos they know it means he gets another few months
2. We lose, he doesnt get sacked, the whole forum goes mental and theres bans AOTS

With a draw things will just stay the same.

Very exciting 24hours in store.

 

[Sverre Takleifbotten]

Did you happen to catch the City series on Amazon Prime? In one of the episodes, Pep was explaining how they drill constantly on making controlled one-touch passes and still maintain possession. Then they showed a clip (with a counter in the upper corner of the screen) where they made 20 consecutive such passes. Could you imagine what that must be like? I can't remember the last time we made 3 in a row, unless you count: Pickford > Keane > Delph > Morgan > Delph > Gylfi > Morgan > Delph > Mina > Pickford

No, but I've read quite a lot about Pep, and the man knows what he wants from his team. Everything around the team is designed to achieve just that. When we have a lot of ball possession we have no purpose, what Pep calls tiki taka, while when City has the ball they have a purpose. That said, Pep has been known to give his players great freedom in the last third. His job is to build a game that puts players in good positions. But to answer the question, no I can't imagine it yet.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

We'll belt West Ham all over the shop tomorrow and then we'll all get some peace from the demanders of yet more disruption to Everton.

If we don't Dave then someone needs to belt Silva all over the shop!

 

[BlueStevie35]

Silva gets till Christmas.

Meanwhile.

Brands has wasted 250m based on in some cases 20 minutes of footy.

How do you do it dave? Did you have surgery to remove part of your brain?

It’s truly unbelievable how he finds fault in everyone else but the incumbent in the dugout (Koeman exempted)

 

[Billysgingham.]

If we don't Dave then someone needs to belt Silva all over the shop!

If we don't I can see that reply being vaulted.

 

[Cool_Blue]

From McNultys article........

‘Everton's starting line-up was acquired at cost of around £250m’
‘Silva looks to have built an Everton team on foundations of sand’

Someone make it stop please

 

[Efcjake]

Everton's pursuit of success has left them stuck in a vicious circle
A series of failed transfer windows is catching up on manager Marco Silva, writes Chris Bascombe


Chris Bascombe
October 18 2019 2:30 AM

To sum up the problems at Everton, we should consider an ambition of the director of football, Marcel Brands.
"My goal for the long-term is to bring this club to a situation, like the top clubs, where you bring two or three new players and maybe get two or three players out in each window - that should give the club more stability," Brands said.

To put it into perspective, Brands has been actively involved in negotiating over 60 deals since joining Everton in 2018. If that demonstrates the level of debris to clear over the past 12 months, the club's recent return on investment shows Brands is still some way off the serenity he craves.
Everton have the seventh-highest annual wage bill in the Premier League. This season, it equates to each player costing £462,857 per point, based on their average annual salary. Only two clubs have achieved worse value for money this season.

Despite Everton being the fifth-highest spender in the last transfer window - albeit they recouped money from sales, too - they are in the bottom three. This is not the payback Farhad Moshiri, the owner, envisioned when announcing his Everton investment in February 2016.

Everton seemed to have stability then, among that cluster of clubs in need of a financial jolt to regularly challenge the top four. They had two managers in 14 years. Moshiri has already sacked three and has never given much of an impression he is overly enamoured with Marco Silva.

Now Silva goes into tomorrow's game with West Ham having raised the stakes on his future by introducing the idea of a "must-win" fixture after the last defeat at Burnley. No one else at Goodison Park has suggested the manager will go if his side loses for the fifth consecutive league match, and the club insist they want to give him time. But - as the Gwladys Street chant goes - they know their history. Recent managerial stints have ended after depressing home games when disillusionment turned to fury.

Patience is wearing thin as Everton chase what every aspirational club craves - that virtuous circle where investment brings success, success attracts better players and yields more lucrative sponsors, and sponsors facilitate more investment in the club's infrastructure and team.

Millions have been ploughed into the squad during an era when Manchester United, Arsenal and - to a lesser extent - Chelsea have been weaker. Had these resources been put to better use Everton would now be the natural rivals of Leicester City, pursuing realistic top-four aspirations. Instead, even when money is available, they operate in a challenging market where the most coveted players want European football elsewhere.

It has prompted a series of risky and, in some cases, catastrophic recruitment decisions, the consequences of which continue to have a debilitating impact.
It has been a steep learning curve for the owner during what, so far, has been an unproductive reign, but he cannot be accused of not putting his hand in his pocket.

Much of the current difficulties are still traced back to the summer of 2017 when manager Ronald Koeman and director of football Steve Walsh oversaw a £144 million spree to rebuild the squad.

Of the 14 deals, only Jordan Pickford can be deemed a success. Michael Keane was in better form until recently, but the sale of Romelu Lukaku has had the most profound impact on the team.

After Koeman's sacking, Theo Walcott and Cenk Tosun arrived under Sam Allardyce the following January, the duo sneaking in just before a review of transfer policy insisted on ending such expensive deals for ageing earners. Neither can be offloaded so continue to make their anonymous weekly appearances from the bench.

Encouraging
Brands replaced Walsh in 2018 and his early restructuring work was encouraging, removing some of the biggest salaries, while securing a genuine, Champions League calibre player in Lucas Digne and Richarlison. Loan signings Andre Gomes and Kurt Zouma were a class above those they replaced, too. But last summer's transfer window left the club with unfinished business.

With Zouma's loan spell over, Silva spent months pleading for a centre-back. On deadline day he was given attacking midfielder Alex Iwobi, one of those deals which smacked of last-minute improvisation rather than long-term planning. Despite a further £122 million in 2019, Everton have an unbalanced squad, desperately lacking in attacking areas where they remain dependant on the promise of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean. The manager is inevitably taking the most flak. Dropping into the bottom three raises doubts he can meet his objective of improving on last year's points tally, qualifying for Europe and oversee two prolonged cups runs.

The conceding of set-piece goals and persisting with a 4-2-3-1 formation has not helped. It may be with reluctance and - given their injury list - even greater difficulty he goes back to the drawing board. Everton's pursuit of that virtuous circle continues. At the moment, they are trying to escape a vicious one.
(© Daily Telegraph, London)

If 5 losses on the spin doesn't get him sacked then they might as well give him a lifetime contract.

 

[davek]

Silva gets till Christmas.

Meanwhile.

Brands has wasted 250m based on in some cases 20 minutes of footy.

How do you do it dave? Did you have surgery to remove part of your brain?

Brands gets away with murder, why shouldn't Silva?

 

[Goat]

Brands gets away with murder, why shouldn't Silva?

But thats not what you are doing...................

You are saying poor Marco whilst giving Branda a dogs life.

Where im saying Silva is a clueless biff, but not saying he should be sacked.

So im giving them both a fair crack, whilst your giving Brands NONE of the leeway your affording Roberto Silva.

 

[davek]

Everton's pursuit of success has left them stuck in a vicious circle
A series of failed transfer windows is catching up on manager Marco Silva, writes Chris Bascombe


Chris Bascombe
October 18 2019 2:30 AM

To sum up the problems at Everton, we should consider an ambition of the director of football, Marcel Brands.
"My goal for the long-term is to bring this club to a situation, like the top clubs, where you bring two or three new players and maybe get two or three players out in each window - that should give the club more stability," Brands said.

To put it into perspective, Brands has been actively involved in negotiating over 60 deals since joining Everton in 2018. If that demonstrates the level of debris to clear over the past 12 months, the club's recent return on investment shows Brands is still some way off the serenity he craves.
Everton have the seventh-highest annual wage bill in the Premier League. This season, it equates to each player costing £462,857 per point, based on their average annual salary. Only two clubs have achieved worse value for money this season.

Despite Everton being the fifth-highest spender in the last transfer window - albeit they recouped money from sales, too - they are in the bottom three. This is not the payback Farhad Moshiri, the owner, envisioned when announcing his Everton investment in February 2016.

Everton seemed to have stability then, among that cluster of clubs in need of a financial jolt to regularly challenge the top four. They had two managers in 14 years. Moshiri has already sacked three and has never given much of an impression he is overly enamoured with Marco Silva.

Now Silva goes into tomorrow's game with West Ham having raised the stakes on his future by introducing the idea of a "must-win" fixture after the last defeat at Burnley. No one else at Goodison Park has suggested the manager will go if his side loses for the fifth consecutive league match, and the club insist they want to give him time. But - as the Gwladys Street chant goes - they know their history. Recent managerial stints have ended after depressing home games when disillusionment turned to fury.

Patience is wearing thin as Everton chase what every aspirational club craves - that virtuous circle where investment brings success, success attracts better players and yields more lucrative sponsors, and sponsors facilitate more investment in the club's infrastructure and team.

Millions have been ploughed into the squad during an era when Manchester United, Arsenal and - to a lesser extent - Chelsea have been weaker. Had these resources been put to better use Everton would now be the natural rivals of Leicester City, pursuing realistic top-four aspirations. Instead, even when money is available, they operate in a challenging market where the most coveted players want European football elsewhere.

It has prompted a series of risky and, in some cases, catastrophic recruitment decisions, the consequences of which continue to have a debilitating impact.
It has been a steep learning curve for the owner during what, so far, has been an unproductive reign, but he cannot be accused of not putting his hand in his pocket.

Much of the current difficulties are still traced back to the summer of 2017 when manager Ronald Koeman and director of football Steve Walsh oversaw a £144 million spree to rebuild the squad.

Of the 14 deals, only Jordan Pickford can be deemed a success. Michael Keane was in better form until recently, but the sale of Romelu Lukaku has had the most profound impact on the team.

After Koeman's sacking, Theo Walcott and Cenk Tosun arrived under Sam Allardyce the following January, the duo sneaking in just before a review of transfer policy insisted on ending such expensive deals for ageing earners. Neither can be offloaded so continue to make their anonymous weekly appearances from the bench.

Encouraging
Brands replaced Walsh in 2018 and his early restructuring work was encouraging, removing some of the biggest salaries, while securing a genuine, Champions League calibre player in Lucas Digne and Richarlison. Loan signings Andre Gomes and Kurt Zouma were a class above those they replaced, too. But last summer's transfer window left the club with unfinished business.

With Zouma's loan spell over, Silva spent months pleading for a centre-back. On deadline day he was given attacking midfielder Alex Iwobi, one of those deals which smacked of last-minute improvisation rather than long-term planning. Despite a further £122 million in 2019, Everton have an unbalanced squad, desperately lacking in attacking areas where they remain dependant on the promise of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean. The manager is inevitably taking the most flak. Dropping into the bottom three raises doubts he can meet his objective of improving on last year's points tally, qualifying for Europe and oversee two prolonged cups runs.

The conceding of set-piece goals and persisting with a 4-2-3-1 formation has not helped. It may be with reluctance and - given their injury list - even greater difficulty he goes back to the drawing board. Everton's pursuit of that virtuous circle continues. At the moment, they are trying to escape a vicious one.
(© Daily Telegraph, London)

"Despite a further £122 million in 2019, Everton have an unbalanced squad, desperately lacking in attacking areas"

Something I've been saying since the summer and about the only worthwhile point Bascombe makes.

 

[ProZ]

Would you lot sacrifice 3 points tomorrow if it meant getting Marco out the door.