billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't see the panic we did well yesterday just bad finishing and defending cost us. West Ham worried Mr more but we have enough to be comfortable even in a transition season.
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We went to Arsenal away and went at them, we probably had by far the better chances, a world class goal and a dodgy offside goal ended us.
Promising signs for sure, hopefully the results will follow.
Cech was given MOTM and even Dracula said we were the better team.
Arsenal manager Unai Emery: "We are happy because we wanted to win for our supporters, to continue improving, and the three points are very important. We didn't control the match like we wanted to in the first half, but our goalkeeper had a good performance to keep us in it.
Promising signs for sure, hopefully the results will follow.
Cech was given MOTM and even Dracula said we were the better team.
Arsenal manager Unai Emery: "We are happy because we wanted to win for our supporters, to continue improving, and the three points are very important. We didn't control the match like we wanted to in the first half, but our goalkeeper had a good performance to keep us in it.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
How often did we see those counter attacks finished off in the past with Lukaku slotting from inside the area? His movement was the key. We have no one in attack remotley with that sense of space and timing.
News just in Dave, we havent replaced Lukaku, more as we get it.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The greatest Everton signing in the PL era.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Blue Roo
Player Valuation: £15m
Ok, will try this again another way.
In general,Rico, Walcott and DCL put pressure on the the start of the Arsenal build up and as mentioned it was effective at times in helping the midfield put pressure on the Arsenal players receiving the ball.
That is, when your tactics are counter attack, mids don't generally join in that pressure and make it a high press.
They want the press to be where the ball is being received in the next phase.
Sometimes they did this.
At other times Sig saw the potential for a press and joined in. This drew Gana or Davies into covering the immediate passing line, and at times directly into the press. And yes there was success, usu with help from Gana, in turning over possession and mounting an attack. (This is not a counter attack btw)
You might think this is great and all, but its also source of why we are losing/not winning matches. It shouldn't be the problem but with the current mix of players and tactics/formation used, it is.
You need to join the dots from there to how the opposition midfielders/forwards are time and again moving into, and then loitering, in front of the CBs without any pressure. And why its too easy to get passes to them because while playing a 4-2-3-1 (Hint the 3 in this formation do very little to prevent this happening)
There's a lot to what's going on, but the goals on the weekend illustrate quite a few things (apologies for last post with reference to the first goal being 4v4, I was looking at the previous attacking play before they scored the goal which should have been a goal also, and blame the confusion on my bro-in-law n a bottle of scotch)
1st goal
Its sickening seeing Kenny being blamed for the first goal or that it was just a world class strike.
Lacazette (widest player on the pitch, with no pressure from Walcott) played a pin point pass right across the defence to Ramsey on the edge of the D.
Davies sprint/lunge interception should not have been necessary if he had just been man marking him - the ball should not have had a chance of getting to the attacker, if this had been done, or if the retreating Gana had blocked the passing lane (but shouldn't be expected to do everything)
Kenny at this stage is the only one marking, picking up the only forward in the backline.
Because of Davies lunge his follow up is unable to prevent the Ramsey receiving the ball back.
Meanwhile Lacazette has a free run in loads of space because Walcott does what Walcott does when defending - nothing!
Its gobsmacking that he just let him run past and stood there and watched - disgraceful.
As the ball gets played wide to Lacazette, Kenny has to leave his man to go to him.
Two Arsenal players who have made the run to draw away the defenders to allow Lacazette the space to bend round Kenny
Once again Kenny was left completely exposed and this time the goal was scored.
You can blame the players, but Silva should've of learnt his by now -
If Walcott is going to do nothing to prevent goals like this, then don't put him on the wing in this formation.
Don't let Gana run around trying to do everything, give him a proper position - and make it simpler for the back four to organise themselves based on what going on in front of them.
Man up and mark up when needed, stop your players playing like a bunch of pussies.
2nd goal
3 v Kenny - says it all.
We can play like we did in the first half and end up no better than 10th.
Or the defense/midfield can be sorted out and the building can begin.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
...don't forget Mo Besic...
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
Seems quite obvious to me...
We've got half a team of good players...most of whom havent been available for several games.
Once these players have a run of games together we will be a different proposition, possibly 6th/7th best this season.
Then we add more similar quality players.
We've got half a team of good players...most of whom havent been available for several games.
Once these players have a run of games together we will be a different proposition, possibly 6th/7th best this season.
Then we add more similar quality players.
davids
Player Valuation: £60m
As I said I back every Everton manager,but he worries me .DCL with a lousy goal scoring record yet he keeps playing him. Niasse whatever his limitations has a far superior goals per minute return.I don't care if it goes in off someones arse or his elbow.Just look at our points total from our supposed easy start to the season
davids
Player Valuation: £60m
You don't need to be top class to score against our defence.
Well it's purely semantics then.
To me, a counter is when you quickly win the ball back and break. Whether that be from deep or from high up. I'm not into all the technical terms of vertical passing, turnovers etc. It's a counter, in my eyes.
For the first goal, I'm not blaming any of our players. My point was Arsenal got lucky with a bounce/failed clearance and Lacazette had the quality to punish us. In an ideal world, Kenny would have shown Lacazette the left side but he would have then been into the box and there's a chance of a pen/goal anyway.
Three v Kenny has nothing to do with tactics. It has to do with Zouma making a bad mistake and then diving in. Arsenal break, Keane steps up to play an offside and Kenny doesn't (as he has a habit of doing at the moment).
Arsenal then get lucky with a blatant offside, but it came from a mistake. That's not tactics.
Stop looking to blame Silva for that. Mistakes happen and bad bounces happen. The issue is that we didn't finish the chances when we had them. The tactics (which you describe very adequately at the start of your post) were key in us creating those chances, because we applied pressure to the Arsenal line and had the pace to capitalise.
You can criticise fairly, like why did he not change it up when we went 1-0 down or just before, when we were on top but it was clear DCL was flagging. Or why did it take 20 minutes for us to reorganise?
So the tactics worked. The goals we conceded were down to individual mistakes or errors in judgement from players at that point, plus a quality finish and a stunningly bad piece of officiating.
'kin hell I give up
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